Re: transitions to Working Group'

Hi all,

I agree to Paola and Roberto as well!

Martin

Am 22.04.2014 09:20, schrieb Roberto García González:
> Like Paola, I don't see the group mature enough to transition to a WG.
> As a WG we need to deliver something and before that we should agree
> what we want to deliver and who is going to contribute.
>
> Roberto García
> Associate Professor
> Universitat de Lleida
> Jaume II, 69
> 25001 Lleida, Spain
> Tel. +34 973 702 742
> http://rhizomik.net/~roberto
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com
> <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Milton
>     the reason why I am hesitant to consider the transition now, is
>     because although we have managed to rustle up a good portfolio of
>       related activites from individual members, there has been no joint
>     activity nor discussions
>
>     A WG needs to commit to deliver or it fails
>
>     Imho, if at least 5 people make some commitment to deliver work, the
>     group can make transition otherwise better stay informal
>
>     Have revised the form to include statement of commitment from members,
>     *http://tinyurl.com/mnr3fqe*
>
>       if something crops up, we ll resubmit the form
>
>     Found these guidelines for WG, hope they still hold
>     http://www.w3.org/2003/06/Process-20030618/groups.html
>
>     Thanks
>
>     PDM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 9:07 PM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program
>     <metadataportals@yahoo.com <mailto:metadataportals@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>         Correct me if I am wrong. There are three categories of issues
>         to consider when transitioning from Community group to Work Group.
>
>         (1) Mission, objectives and program outline, including projects
>         and tasks (2) Governance and procedures (3) Contributions made
>         by members
>
>         The problem lies in (1) and (3), of which (1) is the most
>         critical. If we cannot resolve (1) before May 5 next we must not
>         transition.
>
>         The form seems fine to me.
>
>
>         Milton Ponson
>         GSM: +297 747 8280 <tel:%2B297%20747%208280>
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>         Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
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>         On Monday, April 21, 2014 7:18 AM, Paola Di Maio
>         <paola.dimaio@gmail.com <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com>> wrote:
>         Sure Milton-
>
>         Do I gather that you think we are ready?
>
>         is there something we should expect to happen before May 1st?
>
>         I just checked the dashboard for a polling facility
>         but could not find it
>
>         is this form OK?
>         *http://tinyurl.com/mnr3fqe*
>
>         PDM
>
>
>         On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 11:16 PM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program
>         <metadataportals@yahoo.com <mailto:metadataportals@yahoo.com>>
>         wrote:
>
>             Can we take unitl like May 1, 2014 to try to finalize a
>             transition? If by May 1 next we do not all feel comfortable
>             about this we can do a poll and take a consensus based decision.
>
>             regards
>
>             Milton Ponson
>             GSM: +297 747 8280
>             PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
>             Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
>             Project Paradigm: A structured approach to bringing the
>             tools for sustainable development to all stakeholders
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>             On Sunday, April 20, 2014 3:02 AM, Paola Di Maio
>             <paola.dimaio@gmail.com <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com>> wrote:
>             Greetings SWISIG members
>
>             Yesterday I filled out a form to W3C  more or less saying we
>             are not
>             ready yet to transition to WG, (I reply quickly sometimes
>             not to forget)
>
>             Only after hitting the send button
>             it occurred to me I should have consulted with co-chair and
>             group members
>
>             We can change our response til 10 May, so if enough ppl think
>             we should transition this year, please stepfforward and
>             state your commitment to make things happen, and we'll resubmit
>
>             Otherwise, let's see if plans mature in their own time
>
>             Thanks, happy Spring Holidays to all
>
>             PDM
>
>
>             ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>             From: *Paola Di Maio via WBS Mailer* <webmaster@w3.org
>             <mailto:webmaster@w3.org>>
>             Date: Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 7:45 AM
>             Subject: [wbs] response to 'Determining which Community and
>             Business Groups transitions to Working Group'
>             To: paola.dimaio@gmail.com <mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com>,
>             team-community-process@w3.org
>             <mailto:team-community-process@w3.org>
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>
>             The following answers have been successfully submitted to
>             'Determining which
>             Community and Business Groups transitions to Working Group'
>             (public) for
>             Paola Di Maio.
>
>              >
>              > ---------------------------------
>              > Your Community Group or Business Group
>              > ----
>              > Please, name the Community Group or Business Group for
>             which you are
>              > submitting answers.
>              >
>              >
>             Name of your Community Group or Business Group: SEMANTIC WEB
>             INTERFACES
>             (SWI) SIG
>
>              >
>              >
>              > ---------------------------------
>              > State of your Community Group or Business Group
>              > ----
>              > Is your Community Group or Business Group:
>              >
>              >
>
>               * ( ) Active and ongoing and nearing completion
>               * ( ) Inactive because it has completed its work
>               * (x) Active and ongoing and far from completion
>               * ( ) Inactive because the original scope is no longer
>             relevant or because
>             the CG never got momentum
>
>              >
>              >
>              > ---------------------------------
>              > Goal of your Community Group or Business Group
>              > ----
>              > Is the goal of your Community Group or Business Group:
>              >
>              >
>
>               * (x) To provide a specification
>               * ( ) To be a discussion forum for specifications done
>             elsewhere
>               * ( ) Other (please specify)
>             You checked "other", please specify:
>             a high level specificationn
>
>              >
>              >
>              > ---------------------------------
>              > Status of the spec of your Community Group or Business Group
>              > ----
>              > What are your specification transition plans?
>              >
>
>               * ( ) We have already handed off all or part of a
>             specification to a
>             Working Group.
>
>               * ( ) We plan to request that a specification transition
>             to a Working
>             Group within six months.
>
>               * ( ) We have a specification that is a candidate for
>             transition to a
>             Working Group but have no schedule yet for doing so.
>               * (x) We do not plan to transition a specification to a
>             Working Group
>             (provide details in the next question).
>
>              >
>              >
>              > ---------------------------------
>              > No transition to a Working Group
>              > ----
>              > We do not expect to transition to a Working Group for the
>             following
>              > reasons (check all that apply):
>              >
>              >
>
>               * [x] Too early, insufficient number of implementations yet.
>               * [ ] Too narrow, not a key part of the Open Web Platform.
>               * [ ] A Community Group or Business Group is good enough,
>             Working Groups
>             have too much bureaucracy.
>               * [ ] We suspect that key players will not want to make
>             Working Group
>             patent commitments.
>               * [ ] Too many key players are not Members of W3C and
>             would not want to
>             follow the work into a Working Group.
>               * [ ] Other (please specify).
>             You checked "other", please specify:
>             exploratory work,  community is  still loosely engaged so far
>             maybe if one or two ears if things mature
>
>              >
>              >
>              > ---------------------------------
>              > Open comments
>              > ----
>              > Please, let us us know of anything you feel is relevant
>             to complete your
>              > answers.
>              >
>              >
>             Comments:
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>              >
>              > These answers were last modified on 19 April 2014 at
>             02:14:48 U.T.C.
>              > by Paola Di Maio
>              >
>             Answers to this questionnaire can be set and changed  until
>             2014-05-11.
>
>               Regards,
>
>               The Automatic WBS Mailer
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