Re: My input for tomorrow

pá 22. 9. 2023 v 20:11 odesílatel Marnanel Thurman <>

> On 22 September 2023 18:34:00 BST Bob Wyman <> wrote:
> But, which perspectives should we seek? Jon's note only mentioned
> perspectives arising from diversity of sex, gender, or other inherited
> characteristics  But, there are many other influences that intersect to
> create unique, valuable, and addressable perspectives. Gamers, chemists,
> teachers, users of accessibility features, merchants, non-English speakers,
> operators of disaster response systems, and many others will have, in
> addition to many common interests, usefully diverse interests that might,
> or even should, be considered by those developing SocialWeb standards.
> I think we should recognize that seeking diverse perspectives is not like
> collecting stamps.
> With respect, I think you miss the point of what Jon and I were saying
> here. Jon's original post said we were missing the perspective of:
> "Black and Indigenous people, women of color, trans and non-binary people,
> and others who are marginalized and exploited by today's centralized and
> commercial social networks"
> Chemists (qua chemists) are not people who are marginalised and exploited;
> neither are most of the other categories you list. But the categories in
> Jon's list are of people who are routinely spoken over in society, and who
> we therefore need to ensure we're listening to.
> (We should certainly be seeking input from chemists and gamers and
> whatever as well, but that's orthogonal to the first point.)

I feel that some challenges, regardless of the charter's wording, may
remain difficult to address. I've been fortunate to engage with many who
champion diversity, but there's a small fraction who might inadvertently
overlook contributions from diverse individuals. The W3C is aware and has
initiatives in place, but challenges persist.

As for grassroots involvement, the W3C's foundation is its consortium of
companies and universities. While Community Groups were designed to involve
grassroots, they are sometimes utilized by corporations to influence
standards. Invitations to grassroots members vary across groups, with some
being more inclusive than others. Given the W3C's structure, especially at
the WG level, significant systemic changes seem challenging. However, I
remain hopeful for a potential compromise or alternative approach.

> M
> --
> Who would stoop to be fearless— like a tree?

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