Re: Special Topic Call - Social Web and CSAM: Liabilities and Tooling

Hi,

Is there a chance that a recording could be made? The call is scheduled for
1am on Saturday morning in New Zealand.

thanks,
rabble


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On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 8:39 AM Bob Wyman <bob@wyman.us> wrote:

> The report, Child Safety on Federated Social Media
> <https://purl.stanford.edu/vb515nd6874>, mentions the CyberTipline API
> <https://report.cybertip.org/ispws/documentation/> of the US-based National
> Center for Missing & Exploited Children (NCMEC)
> <https://www.missingkids.org/> and suggests that it would be useful to
> provide mechanisms to make it easier to file reports using that API. (See
> page 11) US law apparently requires such reports by providers of electronic
> communication services or remote computing services. (See: 18 USC 2258A
> <https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2258A>). Also, US law
> requires that the NCMEC forward reports to appropriate Federal, State, or
> foreign authorities. The NCMEC says that during 2021, they sent 75,000+
> take-down notices to companies and that the average time to remove
> offending media was 27 hours. (See: Link
> <https://www.missingkids.org/gethelpnow/isyourexplicitcontentoutthere#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20we%20sent%2075%2C000%2B%20notices%20to%20companies.%20On%20average%2C%20images%20were%20taken%20down%20within%2027%20hours.%C2%A0>)
> I can't find any statement concerning the number of reports NCMEC made to
> law enforcement agencies.
>
> Some questions that might be addressed during the call, or in email prior
> to it:
>
>    - Are operators of ActivityPub instances considered to be "providers
>    of electronic communication services or remote computing services" who, if
>    in the USA, have a legal obligation to make reports to the NCMEC?
>    - Do laws in other nations require CSAM reporting and/or establish
>    organizations like the NCMEC to receive such reports?
>    - Are there any other US or non-US laws that might require ActivityPub
>    instance operators to make reports of other kinds of illegal speech?
>    - Have any operators of ActivityPub services received NCMEC take-down
>    notices? Is this a common, or an unusual event?
>    - Have any users of ActivityPub services been prosecuted for
>    distributing CSAM via ActivityPub? If so, were any of them as a result of
>    reports to NCMEC?
>    - Does anyone know if NCMEC reports are required for
>    computer-generated media that does not depict actual children? (i.e.
>    CG-CSAM)
>    - If the operators of an instance did, in fact, make a practice of
>    filing NCMEC or similar reports, would it be useful to announce this on
>    their site? If so, would it be useful to define some standard means by
>    which instance operators could announce that they do so? (e.g. Some site
>    metadata, standard badge, etc?)
>    - The 25 Mastodon instances studied in the report included Japanese
>    instances which are known to carry lots of CSAM. How much of a problem is
>    CSAM on non-Japanese instances?
>
> bob wyman
>
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 12:48 PM Dmitri Zagidulin <dzagidulin@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> In light of the recent report Addressing Child Exploitation on Federated
>> Social Media
>> <https://cyber.fsi.stanford.edu/io/news/addressing-child-exploitation-federated-social-media> and
>> the many important resulting conversations (such as this megathread
>> <https://mastodon.social/@det@hachyderm.io/110782896576855419>),
>> SWITCH would like to host a Special Topic Call on "Social Web and CSAM:
>> Liabilities and Tooling", this coming Friday, August 4th, 2023, at 9am
>> Eastern / 6am Pacific / 3pm CET, at:
>>
>> https://meet.jit.si/social-web-cg
>>
>> We're very excited to be joined by special guests, David Thiel and Alex
>> Stamos, from the Stanford Internet Observatory!
>>
>> The Chairs
>>
>