- From: Sean Bechhofer <sean.bechhofer@manchester.ac.uk>
- Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:00:26 +0100
- To: Guus Schreiber <schreiber@cs.vu.nl>
- Cc: SWD Working SWD <public-swd-wg@w3.org>
Dear Guus SKOS Simple Knowledge Organisation Systems Reference Draft 30 July 2008 Thank you for your review of the above document. We have made a number of changes which we believe address the comments that you have raised. A revised version of the document is available at: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20080820/ Below, please find in-line responses to your review comments identifying either changes made, explanations or rationale for making no change. Can you please confirm that you are now in agreement that this document is ready for Last Call? Sean & Alistair ------------------------------------------------------------------ > GENERAL EDITING > Please change "foo/bar" examples. * Section 1.4 changed to dogs/cats. SKB * Section 1.6.1 changed to Person/hasParent/hasMother. SKB * Examples using foo/bar changed to love/adoration. SKB > "Integrity constraints/conditions": use one of these forms consistently * Changed in 9.6.2. SKB > "data" variably used as singular or plural, e.g. "SKOS data are" but also "some given data conforms to " * Usage changed consistently to plural. SKB > SYNOPSIS > "documented with various types of note" note => notes I believe this is ok as it stands, with the plural form of types. SKB > STATUS > The 2nd "feature at risk" is unclear. We have to state the options and how the current choice might change (e.g. adding property- chaining axioms). Done. SKB > SEC. 1 > Consider to add a note about the overall design rationale behind SKOS, roughly covering the following issues: > - wide coverage of KOSs required > - therefore danger of SKOS schema overcommitment > - WG rationale: if in doubt, don't include a formal constraint (least commitment strategy), but suggest usage convention or specialization instead => see Primer The following has been added before Section 1.6 (How to Read this Document) 1.5 Design Rationale As discussed above, the notion of a Knowledge Organisation System encompasses a wide range of artefacts. There is thus a danger of overcommitment in the SKOS schema, which could preclude the use of SKOS for a particular application. In order to alleviate this, in situations where there is doubt about the inclusion of a formal constraint (for example, see discussion about <code>skos:hasTopConcept</code>), the constraint has not been stated formally. In such cases, usage conventions may be suggested, or specialisations of the SKOS vocabulary may be used in order to enforce constraints (see the SKOS PRIMER). SKB > 1.2: suggest to change section title to "SKOS Overview" Done. SKB 1.3 > " ...I.e. SKOS is itself an OWL Full ontology." delete this part of the sentence as it is more or less a repetition of the earlier part. Removed. SKB > [[ I.e. it is appropriate (if one has the time, effort and need) to manually re-engineer a thesaurus or classification scheme as a formal OWL ontology, using the "concepts" of the thesaurus as a starting point for creating classes, properties and individuals in the ontology, and using the informal hierarchies and association networks of the thesaurus as a starting point for creating the axioms and facts of the ontology. However, OWL is a formal ontology language, and it does not by itself provide a natural or suitable data model for expressing a thesaurus or classification scheme. I.e. it is not appropriate to express the "concepts" of a thesaurus or classification scheme directly as classes of an ontology, nor to express the informal (broader/narrower) hierarchy of a thesaurus directly as a set of class subsumption axioms. The reason for this is that, because a thesaurus or classification scheme has not been developed with formal semantics in mind, but rather as an informal or semi-formal aid to navigation and information retrieval, expressing a thesaurus hierarchy directly as a set of ontology classes with subsumption axioms typically leads to a number of inappropriate or nonsensical conclusions.]] > I suggest to delete this paragraph. I think the issue is made clear enough in the rest of the text (also in 1.4), and this paragraph might be perceived as too opinionated. Removed. SKB > 1.4 > Should we label this section explicitly as "Informative"? Left as is. SKB > 1.5 > [[ These statements are not integrity conditions. I.e. the graph below is perfectly consistent with the SKOS data model, despite the fact that <A> and <B> have not been explicitly declared as instances of skos:Concept.]] > I find this unclear, in particular the "despite" part. I would reverse the argument: OWL Full does not require that <A> and <B> are explicitly defined as concepts, so the model is consistent. You could also argue that it is till an integrity constraint, as it disallows, for example, <A> to be a concept scheme. This is the only point in my review where I would appreciate some discussion. The section has been rewritten. SKB > 1.7 > "an RDF graph" => "a RDF graph" I believe that "an RDF Graph" is the correct usage. Adopting the wisdom of the crowd, Google gives 36,000 hits for "an RDF graph" and 785 for "a rdf graph". SKB SEC. 2: > I suggest to make the table ordering more logical: > skos:Concept skos:ConceptScheme skos:inScheme skos:hasTopConcept skos:topConceptInScheme skos:altLabel skos:hiddenLabel skos:prefLabel skos:note skos:notation skos:changeNote skos:definition skos:editorialNote skos:example skos:historyNote skos:scopeNote skos:semanticRelation skos:broaderTransitive skos:broader skos:narrowerTransitive skos:narrower skos:related skos:Collection skos:OrderedCollection skos:member skos:memberList skos:mappingRelation skos:closeMatch skos:exactMatch skos:broadMatch skos:narrowMatch skos:relatedMatch The table is ordered according to document section. We suggest to leave it as is. SKB > SEC. 4 > Example 5: > [[ <MyConcept> skos:topConceptInScheme <MyScheme> .]] > This statement could have been derived from the inverse semantics. Either remove or explicate in the text. Triple removed. SKB > I find the name "skos:topConceptInScheme" too contrived. I prefer the natural inverse of "skos:hasTopConcept", namely "skos:topConceptOf". This is probably also eaier to understand and remember. Changed to skos:topConceptOf. SKB > 4.6.3 named RDF graphs > Explain (or refer to Primer) the issue of schema containment and potential use of SPARQL + named graphs This section has been removed following discussion during the 19-08-08 telecon. SKB > SEC. 5 > 5.6.2 > [[ For an application that needs to identify labels using URIs, consider using the SKOS eXtension for Labels defined in Appendix A. ]] > Instead of this single sentence I suggest to make a separate note about XL (e.g. "5.6.3 Defining label relations"), explicating in a few sentences why this is needed, just to point readers in the right direction. New section added. SKB > 5.6.4 > This note feels a bit redundant as the point about language tags is already made at the end of 5.4 The note does provide illustrative examples, so I would suggest it remain. SKB > SEC. 7 > "7" => "seven" Done. SKB > Example 25: I suggest to refrain from using the construct "rdf:value" as it is so rarely used. If you really need it, you have to add an explanatory note + RDF ref. Dealt with in the primer. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ public-swd-wg/2008Aug/0025.html. SKB > SEC. 8 > [[ S26: skos:related is disjoint with the property skos:broaderTransitive. ]] > Is skos:related also disjoint with skos:narrowerTransitive? Yes, due to the fact that skos:related is symmetrical. Added explanatory note. SKB > 8.6.4. > Explain briefly rationale why skos:related is not transitive. Dealt with in the primer. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ public-swd-wg/2008Aug/0025.html. SKB > 8.6.6 > "(e.g. simple query expansion algorithms)": delete "simple" Done. SKB > 8.6.10 > First par: > ".. distinct in nature, and that therefore a ..." > => > ".. distinct in nature. Therefore a ..." Done. SKB > SEC 9 > 9.6 > Suggest to explain briefly the use of "( .. )" notation in Turtle. Done (in 9.5). SKB > SEC 10 > S46: should skos:exactMatch not also be disjoint with skos:narrowMatch? Symmetry of exactMatch will ensure this. Added explanatory note. SKB > 10.6.7: > "link to individuals" > to => two Done. SKB > [[ Generally speaking, using owl:sameAs in this way will lead to inappropriate inferences, which may sometimes (but not always) be detectable by checking consistency with the SKOS data model.]] > Obscure sentence. The point was already made above, suggest to delete this sentence. Done. SKB APPENDIX > "A property xl:labelRelation is defined. " > => > "The SKOS data model also defines the property xl:labelRelation." Done. SKB > A1 > I suggest to use "skos-xl:" in the examples instead of "xl". In this document it is not ambiguous, but in actual usage it might lead to reduced clarity. People will use the reference as a model. Is this allowed? A hyphen in a namespace name? I have replaced with skosxl. SKB > A2.1 > "an RDF plain literal": an => a See above comment. SKB > A2.2 > Shouldn't there be a definition c.q. semantic condition to define the cardinality of precisely 1 for xl:literalForm? BTW this would make the FuctionalProperty definition superfluous. Condition S52 has been changed to reflect this. SKB > A2.4.1 > "As stated above ...": this has actually not been stated yet, see previous comment. See above response. SKB > [[ Second, the function is not surjective. In other words, there may be no instances of xl:Label with a literal form corresponding to a given plain literal. ]] > I cannot parse this sentence (in particular the last part); please reformulate. Reworded as: In other words, for a given plain literal <code>l</ code>, there may <strong>not</strong> be an instance of <code>skosxl:Label</code> with <code>l</code> as a literal form. SKB Reworded a bit more, to avoid possible misreading as a normative statement, as: In other words, for a given plain literal <code>l</ code>, there might not be any instances of <code>skosxl:Label</code> with literal form <code>l</code>. AJM > A3.4.2 > "Note the two integrity conditions on the SKOS labeling properties defined in Section 5." > => > "In Section 5 two integrity conditions were defined on the basic SKOS labeling properties." Done. SKB -- Sean Bechhofer School of Computer Science University of Manchester sean.bechhofer@manchester.ac.uk http://www.cs.manchester.ac.uk/people/bechhofer
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