- From: Thomas Baker <thomas.baker@izb.fraunhofer.de>
- Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:16:11 +0200
- To: SW Best Practices <public-swbp-wg@w3.org>
SWBPD Vocabulary Management Task Force telecon 2005-05-12, Thursday, 17:00 UTC Present: Tom Baker, Alistair Miles, Dan Brickley, Ralph Swick Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005May/0070.html See also: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005May/0071.html Log: http://www.w3.org/2005/05/12-swbp-irc Next telecons: June 7, Tuesday, 1300 UTC June 21, Tuesday, 1300 UTC General agreement: the cut-down proposal focuses on RDF vocabularies. good to have this crisp focus. However, there is lots of good text in the Wiki document that should not be lost. DC/FOAF/SKOS have faced some common issues; extracting from that experience is valuable. Not everyone understands importance of maintaining stable URIs; those kinds of concepts are important in the initial draft. Alistair: when I hacked note - try to look from potential user's point of view -- "what can I know from this"? Let's say the things that we definitely can say - and that is our scope! Users are not interested in unsolved issues; they want to know only what they need to know. Most users say: tell me what to do? Danbri: Users of W3C technology sometimes end up feeling stupid because they cannot figure out e.g., using XSLT with RDF. So if there are tricky or unsolved problems, we should make that clear. Tom: ok to scope on what we know, but would like to push a little beyond that -- salvage some of the points from the evolving issues section of the Wiki draft, perhaps in shorter form. Ralph: sympathise re not exposing people to debates which only give them a sense of some deep topic which they'll not find an answer to. At same time, people trying to use this stuff, often get perplexed by things for which there is no answer. We shouldn't be afraid to mention issues for which we've no answers: "yes we know there's an issue, but we don't have an answer". Danbri: While we shouldn't scare people with academic stuff, there are often some practical questions - what mime type should I configure my server, can I put HTTP doc there and content-negotiate, etc. What to put at URI - if reader clicks and gets something readable, etc. Such as: "Where the resources that are the members of an RDF vocabulary are denoted by HTTP URIs, an HTTP GET request with the header field 'accept=application/rdf+xml' against that URI should return an RDF/XML serialisation of an RDF graph that includes a description of the denoted resource." Tom: Andy Powell has a nice paper addressing point 9d. Would be useful to summarize in 2-3 sentences and cite other documents like Andy's paper. Not go much into "vocabulary ownership". Danbri: note that re SKOS, 'vocab ownership' proves complex to talk about, even for one organization (w3c). Danbri: is something like "keeping server software up to date" SW Best Practice? I found a web server at example.org and example.com. I am worried that there is an insecure Web server that could be logging accesses to example.{com,org}. Need to inform people of social policies around namespace documents; e.g. changing your schema changes the interpretation of existing documents. -- Dr. Thomas Baker Thomas.Baker@izb.fraunhofer.de Institutszentrum Schloss Birlinghoven mobile +49-160-9664-2129 Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft work +49-30-8109-9027 53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany fax +49-2241-144-2352 Personal email: thbaker79@alumni.amherst.edu
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