2004-10-14 telecon record

IRC transcript:
 http://www.w3.org/2004/10/14-swbp-irc#T18-44-36

agenda:
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Sep/0095.html

previous:  
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2004Sep/0095.html

Chair:  Guus Schreiber
Scribe: Darren Govoni with great help from Libby Miller
Regrets:  Tom Adams, BrianMcB, BenB, BenA, BenjaminN, BernardV, Lars

Next meeting: Oct 28

Attendees:
	Guus Schreiber
        Phil Tetlow
        Ralph Swick
        David Wood
        Darren Govoni
        Chris Welty
	Gary Ng
	Natasha Noy
	Mike U.
	Alistair
        Libby Miller
	Andreas Harth
	Evan Wallace
	aliman
	??P14
	Jeff
	dlm
	

Action summary:

    ACTION: jjc to update f2f by tuesday next (DONE) [1]
    ACTION: BenB read ODM documents (DONE for Guus, continue for Ben) [2]
    ACTION: Guus contact Pat and Jos about Web Arch comments (DISCONTINUE) [3]
    ACTION: Guus send e-mail about telecon attendance, as it's getting low (DONE) [4]
    ACTION: Ralph create a WBS registration page for the FtF (DONE) [5]
    ACTION: Ralph post his attendance analysis ('good standing' record) to the list (done, but msg needs to get to list) (DONE) [6]
    ACTION: gary ng review ODM (CONTINUE) [7]
    ACTION: chris welty review ODM (CONTINUE) [8]
    ACTION: Ralph to ask WG for feedback on requirement to embed RDF/XML markup in an XHTML document (CONTINUE) [9]
    ACTION: Jeremy to check semantics on DAWG use of XSD in abstract query model. (DONE) [10]
    ACTION: darren review DAWG use cases document (DONE) [11]
    ACTION: danbri circulate links for his existing feedback/review to dawg (CONTINUE) [12]
    ACTION: jjc make a first sketch of short guideline note for using xml schema datatypes (in rdf/owl) (CONTINUE) [13]
    ACTION: jjc to send message to XSLT wg and query (DONE) [14]
    ACTION: jjc to send message to xmls wg (DONE) [15]
    ACTION: libby to summarize ADTF before f2f (DONE) [16]
    ACTION: PhilT to summarize interests from UK National Govt (DONE) [17]
    ACTION: chrisW ask main author or representative to join a telecon or f2f via phone [18]
    ACTION: chrisw to review document - dropped [19]
    ACTION: philT look at garyng's message, see what actions if any this wg shoudl take [20]
    ACTION: chrisw approach sophia about units and measures particpating [21]
    ACTION: chrisw to action to ask guus re numeric ranges (done) [22]
    ACTION: guus to note on numeric ranges after the xml datatypes TF has finished [23]
    ACTION: deb to taking lead on ?closing roles? (missed exactly what, sorry) [24]
    ACTION: al send update of this message to indicate docs we shoudl read before f2f by 25th oct [25]
    ACTION: libby to make that note into a document to read for the f2f by 25th oct [28]
   
Decisions:

        RESOLVED: Sept 30 minutes accepted
        RESOLVED: Sept 16 minutes accepted
	RESOLVED: Next telecon Oct 28, 1400UTC

Agenda items covered:
	"Administration"
	"Draft F2F Agenda"
        "ODM/UML Ontology Profile" 
        "TF Updates"

Highlights (some):

- Task forces expected to provide web resources and/or documents in preparation for F2F by Oct 25th. 
- Web Architecture task finished.
- ODM comments:
...
  = transformations from topic maps, er diagrams, owl,
  = ODM - abstract language spec, implementation based on descriptive logic
  = not much detail included in current draft. mapping details deferred to
       vol 2, due soon.
  = Encouragement from current draft for interoperability, requirements,
       business cases, scenarios and goals.
  = caveat: core DL representation, what is exact intention for it to be
       used?
  = Supposed to be interactive transform between languages? provides gap
       analysis of expressiveness between languages?
  = Wwhether it is simple KR of mapping? or some kind of DL inferencing to
       provide transformation? currently unknown from document.
  = submitters decided (or might decide) to drop DL-meta-model as mapping  
       hub. details not entirely clear at this point about presence
       of a mapping hub, but if so, OWL-Full a candidate.
...

- No one from OEP will be at F2F in person. Telecon participation likely.