- From: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 08:25:40 +0000
- To: Jim Hendler <hendler@cs.umd.edu>
- Cc: Christopher Welty <welty@us.ibm.com>, Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>, Ian Horrocks <horrocks@cs.man.ac.uk>, SWBPD <public-swbp-wg@w3.org>, public-swbp-wg-request@w3.org
Chris: > Well, "mismodelling their world" is not limited to classes as instances. > I find it rather dangerous to make such statements. People use subclass > incorrectly, too, but that wasn't a reason to remove that axiom from OWL > DL. People just mismodel their worlds, I hope we can offer some advice > on both how to do some of these things and how NOT to do it. > > See, it's this kind of converse that makes me nervous -- somehow the > idea that the people who prefer separating class from instance (as Ian > is quoted by Jeremy) are right and those who prefer to use metamodeling > (like Guus as quoted to WOWG. I don't have time to dig up the mail) are > somehow mismodeling. This is nonsense -- I agree with both these points ... but that doesn't mean that any use of classes as instances is well-modelled, and at least in this specific case, remembering Ian's reservations, it seems to me that classes as instances is misguided (when using dc:subject). I am well aware that many others in this group know much more about subject hierarchies and modelling than I do, but we shouldn't shy away from making judgements. My concern was about the implied relationship between *dc:subject* and *rdf:type* both of which are already defined. If, after thinking about it (which I haven't), I thought that metaclasses were an appropriate modelling tool for this case, I think I would need to use a new property instead of *dc:subject* in order to express its relationship to *rdf:type*. On the 'philosophy of SWBPD' topic, I hope that Network Inference, and/or others coming from the DL camp will participate in this WG, since I think we will be less able to represent (and forge) the consensus of the community without input from that part of it. (Certainly I am an unlikely champion of that school of thought !) Jeremy
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