- From: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
- Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:23:40 +0200
- To: <public-sw-meaning@w3.org>
Trying to catch up with the debate ... I basically agree with Karl viewpoint, and particularly on this: > I think the meaning of URI, but I may be wrong, is more constrained by > the context and for what applications they are used but more by the URI > itself. Intended meaning and understood meaning are things which can > have a lot of different shapes. There are basically two stakeholders in the use of a URI. Let me call them hereafter "Publisher" and "User". "Publisher" is to be understood in the Dublin Core definition : "An entity responsible for making the resource available". Note that in that case, I understand resource as the URI in its context of publication (namespace, DNS ...) Publisher is IMO easier to define than the notion of URI "owner" that has been previously discussed, and is a widely used and understood concept. "User" can be whatever from inference engine to data base application to human user interface (browser or otherwise). Of course there is a context of publication, and there is a context of use. As Karl points out, using a URI is always a negociation process between those two actors in their respective contexts, and the meaning a result of this negociation. So we can set the issue as following: - How can Publisher explicit the context of publication and the possible/recommended/mandatory context(s) of use for the URIs he/she/it publishes. - For each context of use, how the meaning must/should/may be endorsed/redefined/refined by User. As Peter remarked, current best practices in the (Semantic) Web can provide good starting points. I should quote here the path opened by Topic Maps use of URIs, making the distinction between two contexts of use as either "subject address" or "subject indicator". See for example Steve Pepper's "Curing the Web Identity Crisis" at http://www.ontopia.net/topicmaps/materials/identitycrisis.html. IMO this is a good starting point, but certainly too simplistic. It takes into account only a given context of use (Topic Maps), and not the context of publication. We have tried in OASIS Published Subjects TC to work out what should be done on Publisher side for facilitation of such a context of use. I must say that after two years of work, we did not came to very substantial conclusions. But maybe we were focused on a too specific type of negociation. I have also tried with some success in pragmatic applications with Mondeca software, the notion that an URI can be used to identify basically three types of things : information resources, real-world identified individuals, or abstract concepts (universals), and that each of those uses triggers a specific behaviour of the application. Without specification of the above quoted negociation and context, almost any URI can be used for any type. But it's quite easy to specify the context in applications. If for example http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/ is used as an identifier of an individual instance of "Person" in my data base, it will be clearly have a different meaning (read : trigger a different behaviour) than if it's used as an identifier for an individual instance of "Personal Home Page". Both make sense, but I can't used both is the same context without risk of inconsistency or weird behaviour. Now the Publisher of the above URI (W3C or Dan himself, amazing I could not figure exactly from the heavy semantic markup of that resource) could specify in which context(s) this URI can/should/may be used, as a basis for negociation with User. Of course this example is maybe too easy. But there are many others as easy or even easier, and mostly those URIs which are really intended by Publisher to mean something - and among those the URIs identifying formal classes, individuals and properties in OWL. So should not we focus on those cases where there is a meaning declared on Publisher's side, and let alone the cases where there is not (in those latter cases, let User set the meaning, with all the inherent risks). Thanks for your attention Bernard Vatant Senior Consultant Knowledge Engineering Mondeca - www.mondeca.com bernard.vatant@mondeca.com
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