- From: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 15:12:49 -0600
- To: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
- Cc: Amelia Bellamy-Royds <amelia.bellamy.royds@gmail.com>, Fred Esch <fesch@us.ibm.com>, SVG WG <public-svg-wg@w3.org>, SVG public list <www-svg@w3.org>
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thank you Rich Schwerdtfeger From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, Fred Esch/Arlington/IBM@IBMUS Cc: Amelia Bellamy-Royds <amelia.bellamy.royds@gmail.com>, SVG WG <public-svg-wg@w3.org>, SVG public list <www-svg@w3.org> Date: 11/12/2015 02:05 PM Subject: Re: Fw: SVG WG review of SVG accessibility specifications Hi, Rich– I think this should be fine. Thanks for your diligence. Regards– –Doug On 11/12/15 3:01 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: > Doug, > > The reason I have not attended SVG calls as the last reschedule they > moved the meeting over a conflicting meeting. So, if you could get the > group to sign off up publications - at least for the SVG-AAM (which is a > heartbeat publication) tonight that would be very helpful. > > The ARIA Graphics module we want to pub. the first week of December as > it is a FPWD. > > We want to lock down the SVG-AAM for tomorrow for publication of a > heartbeat in the next week. > > I will be updating the SVG ARIA section late in the next few weeks to > reflect changes to ARIA 1.1 and our revised mapping table. We are > refreshing ARIA 1.1, the ARIA graphics module, and a number of the > accessibility api mapping specifications in the next 1-2 weeks. I want > to keep SVG in synch. > > Best, > > Rich > > > Rich Schwerdtfeger > > Inactive hide details for Fred Esch---11/12/2015 01:22:47 PM---Doug, Can > you get these two doc reviews on the SVG WG agenda - aFred > Esch---11/12/2015 01:22:47 PM---Doug, Can you get these two doc reviews > on the SVG WG agenda - and hopefully get the working groups > > From: Fred Esch/Arlington/IBM > To: "Douglas Schepers" <schepers@w3.org> > Cc: "Amelia Bellamy-Royds" <amelia.bellamy.royds@gmail.com>, Richard > Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS > Date: 11/12/2015 01:22 PM > Subject: Fw: SVG WG review of SVG accessibility specifications > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Doug, > > Can you get these two doc reviews on the SVG WG agenda - and hopefully > get the working groups approval for us publishing a heartbeat (SVG AAM) > and a first working draft (Graphics Module)? > > > Regards, > > Fred Esch > Watson, IBM, W3C Accessibility > IBM Watson Watson Release Management and Quality > > > ----- Forwarded by Fred Esch/Arlington/IBM on 11/12/2015 02:11 PM ----- > > From: Amelia Bellamy-Royds <amelia.bellamy.royds@gmail.com> > To: www-svg <www-svg@w3.org> > Cc: SVG-A11y TF <public-svg-a11y@w3.org> > Date: 11/11/2015 02:30 AM > Subject: SVG WG review of SVG accessibility specifications > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > A reminder that there are two specifications that the SVG Accessibility > Task Force is hoping to publish in the coming weeks. One is an updated > working draft, the other a first draft: > > * *The SVG Accessibility API Mapping specification* (aka SVG-AAM), > _https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/svg-aam/svg-aam.html_. > This would define how user agents should interpret SVG content when > creating an accessible representation of a document. It includes, > for example, the default ARIA roles for different elements, and how > title and desc should be used to generate accessible names and > descriptions. This is a significant update from the working draft > published last February, although there are a number of outstanding > issues that will not be resolved in this publication round. > * *The ARIA Graphics Module*, > _http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/graphics.html_. > This defines new ARIA roles that would form the foundation of a > description of structured graphics, such as diagrams. The img role > from ARIA 1 is not sufficient for complex SVG, because it assumes > that an image has a single text description, and no meaningful child > content. The new roles would allow graphical objects to contain > other objects with their own descriptions, and possibly with > interactive components. This document would then form the > foundation for a future, more complex role model that could describe > the semantics of complex charts and maps. This would be a first > pass working draft. > > I (and hopefully Doug and maybe Rich) will be available to discuss the > main issues on the teleconference this week. However, comments and > questions by email are of course welcome as well. After that we'll > probably ask for a resolution via email responses (or at least, via an > absence of email objections within a reasonable time frame!). > > I've copied below a summary of the outstanding issues for SVG-AAM (which > I sent to the SVG accessiblity task force list last week). The task > force is doing our final review of the ARIA Graphics module this week, > but I think it's less controversial. > > Best, > Amelia > > ___________________________________________ > > SVG-AAM Status > > Remaining things to do before publication: > > 1. *valid URL for editor's drafts:* Sort out the process for > creating regular snapshots of the Editor's Draft in Github pages > (_w3c.github.io_ <http://w3c.github.io/> domain), and update the > Editor's Draft URL accordingly (it currently points to rawGit, which > provides an up to date reflection of the document, but is not > intended for wide use). > > 2. *admin tidying*: Update dates and other status of document text. > > 3. *name and description edits:* If possible, coordinate with the > editors of the Accessible Name spec about refactoring the name & > description algorithm to improve readability, and update our text in > response. I'll start working on a proposal this afternoon, but I'm > not sure whether this will happen in the next few weeks. If not, we > may wish to add an Editor's note. > > In addition, the following outstanding issues are recorded in Editor's > notes, and won't be addressed for this publication round: > > 1. *hidden elements:* Coordinate with the editors of the CORE-AAM > spec regarding the definition of 'hidden' elements. See the _short > note at the end of Section 3 (Important Terms)_ > < http://rawgit.com/AmeliaBR/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam/svg-aam.html#h-ednote1> and > in more detail in_ the second Editor's Note at the end of Section > 5.1.1 (Excluding Elements)_ > < http://rawgit.com/AmeliaBR/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam/svg-aam.html#h-ednote3>. > > 2. *complex desc content:* Explore whether there should be other > ways to make <desc> content directly browsable in a way that exposes > structured child content. See the_ first note at the end of Section > 5.1.1 (Excluding Elements)_ > < http://rawgit.com/AmeliaBR/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam/svg-aam.html#h-ednote2> and > also _the short note at the end of Section 10.3 (Relations)_ > < http://rawgit.com/AmeliaBR/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam/svg-aam.html#h-ednote8>. > > 3. *use elements:* Determine whether a more complex representation > of the re-used content is required. If so, determine how to > represent it and what special computation is required. If not, > consider whether the name and description proposal is sufficient. > See_the detailed note after the use element in the mapping table_ > < http://rawgit.com/AmeliaBR/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam/svg-aam.html#h-ednote6>, > and also _the note at the end of Section 10.1 (Name and > Description)_ > < http://rawgit.com/AmeliaBR/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam/svg-aam.html#h-ednote7>. > > 4. *graphics roles:* Update some of the default mappings to use new > ARIA graphics roles, once we have appropriate platform API mappings > for those roles. Also, coordinate with the main ARIA team regarding > getting better roles for structured text (e.g., a paragraph role). > See various notes and editor's notes within_ the role mapping table_ > < http://rawgit.com/AmeliaBR/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam/svg-aam.html#mapping_role_table >. > > 5. *SVG views:* Determine whether the proposal for SVG views is > sufficient, and coordinate with the SVG WG regarding viewTarget. > See _the note at the end of Section 10.5 (SVG Views)_ > < http://rawgit.com/AmeliaBR/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam/svg-aam.html#h-ednote9>. > > 6. *Animation and ARIA:* Coordinate with the SVG WG regarding > whether ARIA attributes are modifiable with declarative animation. > See _the note at the end of Section 10.6 (Declarative Animation)_ > < http://rawgit.com/AmeliaBR/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam/svg-aam.html#h-ednote10>. > I've delayed following up on this because of the controversy over > whether animation elements should be deprecated, but that seems to > have stabilized, so I should look into it again. > > (P.S. Links are to my branch on rawgit, and if you're reading this mail > in the archives long after it is written, they will likely no longer go > to the correct points in the document, if they work at all.) >
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