- From: Jonathan Watt <jwatt@jwatt.org>
- Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:28:01 +0100
- To: www-svg <www-svg@w3.org>
Hi www-svg, The minutes for the Mon 26 April SVG Working Group telcon can be found at: http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html or below as text. -Jonathan SVG Working Group Teleconference 26 Apr 2010 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010AprJun/0038.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-irc Attendees Present ed, anthony, ChrisL, JWatt, [Microsoft] Regrets shepazu Chair SV_MEETING_CHAIR Scribe Jonathan Watt Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]Approving tests for SVG 1.1 2nd Edition 2. [6]Finishing 1.1 actions 3. [7]ISSUE-2321 filter margins 4. [8]path implementation details 5. [9]public-fx telcon times * [10]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ <trackbot> Date: 26 April 2010 <scribe> scribe: Jonathan Watt <scribe> scribenick: jwatt <ChrisL> Agenda: [11]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010AprJun/003 8.html [11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010AprJun/0038.html Approving tests for SVG 1.1 2nd Edition <ed> [12]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Test_Suite_1.1F2 [12] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Test_Suite_1.1F2 ED: the difference between "reviewed" and "accepted" is that I thought we should agree on the reviewed ones here <ChrisL> I got to styling-css-09-f.svg and then hit a problem ED: agree to accept them <scribe> ACTION: ED to mark reviewed tests as accepted [recorded in [13]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-2770 - Mark reviewed tests as accepted [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-05-03]. CL: I've not been checking tests in Batik ED: please help with reviewing the remaining tests ... just grab some <ChrisL> [14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010AprJun/004 0.html [14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010AprJun/0040.html CL: the pass criteria is that you don't see red ... but in Firefox you get a flash of red ... while the content is waiting for restyling ... so if it's okay with everyone I'll add the word "go" to the page to make it clear when it's ready (general agreement) <ChrisL> styling-css-08-f.svg <ed> [15]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/styling-css-08-f.s vg [15] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/styling-css-08-f.svg <ChrisL> struct-svg-01-f.svg <ChrisL> styling-pres-02-f.svg <ChrisL> uses getPresentationAttribute. Can't see a way around it though CL: I think he has a point regarding styling-pres-02-f.svg , but there's no other obvious way to do that test ... but I agree we should for now drop it, or mark it not approved <ChrisL> [16]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/styling-pres-02-f. svg [16] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/styling-pres-02-f.svg ED: I can have a look at an alternative way to test it if you like CL: that would be good, I think it's a useful test <scribe> ACTION: Eric to rewrite styling-pres-02-f.svg to not use getPresentationAttribute [recorded in [17]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action02] <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Eric <scribe> ACTION: ED to rewrite styling-pres-02-f.svg to not use getPresentationAttribute [recorded in [18]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action03] <trackbot> Created ACTION-2771 - Rewrite styling-pres-02-f.svg to not use getPresentationAttribute [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-05-03]. ED: it should be possible to get the string values in some way <ChrisL> styling-pres-01-t.svg CL: I'm not sure this is a very good test ... I'd suggest removing it ED: fine with me <scribe> ACTION: CL to remove styling-pres-01-t.svg [recorded in [19]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action04] <trackbot> Created ACTION-2772 - Remove styling-pres-01-t.svg [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-05-03]. <ChrisL> [20]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/styling-pres-01-t. svg [20] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/styling-pres-01-t.svg CL: the issue is that 1.1 required the UA to halt, but we weren't really considering script setting invalid value and things at that time ... and we've relaxed things since then ... and I don't think it guides implementers in the right direction any more <ChrisL> [21]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/styling-pres-01-t. svg [21] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/styling-pres-01-t.svg PD: yeah, okay, let's remove it <ed> "An !important declaration within a presentation attribute definition is an error." <ed> from section 6.4 <ed> in svg 1.1 <ChrisL> file:///D:/WWW/dev/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/publish/styling.html#UsingPres entationAttributes <ed> [22]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/publish/styling.html#UsingP resentationAttributes [22] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/publish/styling.html#UsingPresentationAttributes ED: is this something that we could change in 2nd Ed? ... what it does is make the attribute invalid CL: so that means we would keep the test but change the pass criteria? ED: yes <scribe> ACTION: CL to edit the spec regarding styling-pres-01-t.svg [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action05] <trackbot> Created ACTION-2773 - Edit the spec regarding styling-pres-01-t.svg [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-05-03]. Finishing 1.1 actions ED: I sent out an email ... please address your outstanding issues, or by the end of the week any outstanding actions will be moved to the next edition ... anything to do with spec changes that is ... actions relating to publishing won't be changed of course ... heycam replied to say the javadoc stuff can be done after publishing <ChrisL> close ACTION-2773 <trackbot> ACTION-2773 Edit the spec regarding styling-pres-01-t.svg closed ISSUE-2321 filter margins ED: do we all agree to remove those margin attributes? ... there's push from mozilla, webkit and others ... Opera hasn't implemented it either ... so I don't mind ... trying to come up with something different that works, is implementable and doesn't break old content could be tricky <scribe> ACTION: ED to remove the filter margin attributes [recorded in [24]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action06] <trackbot> Created ACTION-2774 - Remove the filter margin attributes [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-05-03]. <scribe> ACTION: ED to investigate alternative ways of handling subregions for filters [recorded in [25]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action07] <trackbot> Created ACTION-2775 - Investigate alternative ways of handling subregions for filters [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-05-03]. <ed> [26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0119.html [26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0119.html path implementation details ED: we got a suggestion to add a couple of links ... I think it would make it clearer CL: I agree <scribe> ACTION: ED to add links relating to [27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0119.html [recorded in [28]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action08] [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0119.html <trackbot> Created ACTION-2776 - Add links relating to [29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0119.html [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-05-03]. [29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0119.html public-fx telcon times ED: please send in your preferred times <ed> [30]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?day=3&mon th=5&year=2010&p1=224&p2=240&p3=239&p4=-1 [30] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?day=3&month=5&year=2010&p1=224&p2=240&p3=239&p4=-1 <ChrisL> close ACTION-2772 <trackbot> ACTION-2772 Remove styling-pres-01-t.svg closed <ChrisL> adjourned to work on actions trackbot, end telcon Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: CL to edit the spec regarding styling-pres-01-t.svg [recorded in [31]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action05] [NEW] ACTION: CL to remove styling-pres-01-t.svg [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action04] [NEW] ACTION: ED to add links relating to [33]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0119.html [recorded in [34]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action08] [NEW] ACTION: ED to investigate alternative ways of handling subregions for filters [recorded in [35]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action07] [NEW] ACTION: ED to mark reviewed tests as accepted [recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: ED to remove the filter margin attributes [recorded in [37]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action06] [NEW] ACTION: ED to rewrite styling-pres-02-f.svg to not use getPresentationAttribute [recorded in [38]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action03] [NEW] ACTION: Eric to rewrite styling-pres-02-f.svg to not use getPresentationAttribute [recorded in [39]http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-svg-minutes.html#action02] [33] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0119.html [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [40]scribe.perl version 1.135 ([41]CVS log) $Date: 2010/04/26 15:18:32 $ _________________________________________________________ [40] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [41] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ Scribe.perl diagnostic output [Delete this section before finalizing the minutes.] This is scribe.perl Revision: 1.135 of Date: 2009/03/02 03:52:20 Check for newer version at [42]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002 /scribe/ [42] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/ Guessing input format: RRSAgent_Text_Format (score 1.00) Found Scribe: Jonathan Watt Found ScribeNick: jwatt Default Present: ed, anthony, ChrisL, JWatt, [Microsoft] Present: ed anthony ChrisL JWatt [Microsoft] Regrets: shepazu Agenda: [43]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010AprJu n/0038.html [43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2010AprJun/0038.html WARNING: No meeting chair found! 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