- From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:26:56 -0400
- To: office-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
+NAME Doug Schepers +CONTACT schepers@w3.org +CATEGORY (select one or more from below) editing/import-export/other +SCOPE (select one or more from below) presentation/other +USE CASE Dynamic, interactive, semantically-rich, Web-friendly, reusable graphics The W3C SVG Working Group applauds the OpenDocument TC for their decision to use SVG, by adopting some SVG elements and attributes. As we understand it, one goal of the ODF specification is to reuse existing specification where appropriate, and in this case, it makes sense to specify complete support for SVG 1.1 and SVG Tiny 1.2 as they are specified, rather than only as part of ODF Draw format. In the next version of the ODF specification, there should be support for SVG as a regular image and as vector graphics (or "line art"), in addition to the ODF Draw format. With native SVG support, ODF would enjoy several "network effects" though the increasing prevalence of SVG among authoring tools and viewers. Developing and maintaining ODF implementations would be made simpler, since there are many existing open-source SVG libraries, in both C and Java. In contrast to ODF Draw format, SVG is inherently web-publishable, with native support in Firefox, Opera, Safari, and Google Chrome, and in Internet Explorer through plugins or script adaptions. While OOo currently supports SVG as both an import and export format, this extra step makes effective round-tripping more difficult, with regards to using existing content, and editing in Inkscape, Illustrator, CorelDraw, Xara, and other major graphics authoring tools. Additionally, there is good existing clipart content through various open online clipart repositories, which would add value to ODF by making it easier to author content through reuse. This would also tie ODF into the growing SVG and open-graphics communities. With the recent addition of SVG/VML drawings to Google Docs, this would also provide a common graphics format for two of the most popular office suites. Where the SVG specification may not meet the needs of ODF, there are two options. First, ODF can simply extend SVG using its own namespaced elements and attributes. Second, the SVG WG is interested in working with the OpenDocument TC to add missing features to the SVG specification. We are already planning on adding some common features, like connector elements, which we see are supported in ODF, and we are open to hearing more use cases and requirements. We feel that this is a pivotal opportunity for open document formats, and that a synergy between ODF and SVG will work to everyone's benefit. Please let us know any issues or factors that would make adopting SVG as a first-class component of ODF difficult. We may be able to help remove barriers or clarify confusion. Note that OOo, while it does have some support for SVG, does not treat SVG as a first-class format, as outlined here: http://idippedut.dk/post/2008/01/Embrace-and-extend---SVG-revisited.aspx By clarify how SVG should be supported, there would be much better interoperability. +DESCRIPTION Reference SVG 1.1 and SVG Tiny 1.2 as mandated formats for ODF-Next, as a regular image and as vector graphics: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/ http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGTiny12/ For extensions of SVG, ODF should follow the guidelines detailed in the SVG specification: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGTiny12/extend.html#ForeignNamespacesPrivateData Currently, SVG is allowed in ODF, as stated in 9.3.2 Image, "While the image data may have an arbitrary format, it is recommended that vector graphics are stored in the [SVG] format and bitmap graphics in the [PNG] format." However, there is no mandate that it be supported, or details about the precise manner in which it should be supported. After a brief review of the OpenDocument specification, we recommend that you add more detail regarding SVG in the following sections: 4.5 Page-bound graphical content 5.8 Inline graphics and text-boxes 9.3.2 Image, to allow SVG as a link to an external resource, or embedded directly in a document 9.3.3 Objects, to allow SVG as Charts or Drawings 9.3.10 Client Side Image Maps 13 SMIL Animations, to match SVG's animation functionality. The SVG WG is available to help provide more details during the OpenDocument specification process.
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