- From: Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:50:38 +0200
- To: public-svg-wg@w3.org
Hello public-svg-wg,
Minutes of Weds 26 may SVG f2f are here
http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html
and below as text for bots
SVG Working Group Teleconference
21 May 2008
[2]Agenda
[2] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Tiny_12#Test_Suite
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-irc
Attendees
Present
Andrew, Erik, Doug, Anthony, Tony, Chris
Regrets
Chair
Andrew, Erik
Scribe
Erik
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]1.2 testsuite review
* [6]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
<trackbot-ng> Date: 21 May 2008
1.2 testsuite review
<scribe> Scribe: Erik
<scribe> scribeNick: ed
<aemmons>
[7]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/sv
g/struct-use-recursion-02-t.svg
[7] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/struct-use-recursion-02-t.svg
ED: there's a typo: "the green test is rendered" should be "the
green text is rendered"
AE: yes
... all ok with this test?
(WG) yes, this test is approved
DS: we need a better process for doing the testsuite
... we make a tool to create and approve tests, a webapp
... with three fields, the filename, a textbox for the code, and a
textbox for the pass criteria and a textbox for description
... and a dropdown for which part of which spec it's testing. then
you hit a button and it creates the test from the template
... and the testcreator initials
... and it also generates a reference image automatically, or you
can upload a patchfile, once a test is created you can click on it
to view it
... when you're viewing it you can mark it as reviewed, approved or
add comments
[8]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/sv
g/struct-use-recursion-01-t.svg
[8] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/struct-use-recursion-01-t.svg
AE: approved?
(WG): yes
[9]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/sv
g/struct-use-recursion-03-t.svg
[9] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/struct-use-recursion-03-t.svg
(WG) also approved
[10]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-event-209-t.svg
[10] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-event-209-t.svg
AG: should be using d:operatorScript
ED: well, should work there, will the testsuite generation scripts
have a problem you mean?
AG: not sure
... i'll change the test description to match the other tests
AE: bitflash fails this, but I approve of this test
... so we need to verify the reference image once it's created
ED: batik should pass this one
(WG) test approved
[11]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svgmatrix-203-t.svg
[11] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-203-t.svg
(WG) test approved
[12]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svglocatable-202-t.svg
[12] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-202-t.svg
ED: my last comment about getBBox and getScreenCTM should be made
into a new test
AG: some id:s are not xml:id, willfix that
ED: Opera has some more extensive tests, that check bboxes on
elements inside <defs>, with display:none etc...will look into
donating those
(WG) test approved
[13]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svglocatable-203-t.svg
[13] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-203-t.svg
ED: the text has been made green, but the circles are green which
makes the text impossible to read when it overlaps
AE: ok, will make circles yellow
AG: some id:s are not xml:ids
AE: ok, will fix that too
ED: the numbers go off the screen there
(WG) ok, with all changes the test is approved
[14]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svgpoint-201-t.svg
[14] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgpoint-201-t.svg
AG: some id:s are not xml:ids
CL: this should use an epsilon comparison
TZ: ok, will modify the test to do that
... and the id:s
[15]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svg-237-t.svg
[15] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-237-t.svg
ED: i get overlapping text
AE: ok there are many subtests, and if you fail then it may overflow
... but if it passes everything is visible
AG: using id:s not xml:ids
ED: DOMException.name and .message are not in tiny I think
CL: make the animated line invisible
(WG) test approved
<scribe> ACTION: doug to write an automated test creation and
editing framework [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-2025 - Write an automated test creation
and editing framework [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-05-28].
[17]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svg-218-t.svg
[17] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-218-t.svg
ED: if you run the test locally this might give a security exception
since it's accessing another domain
CL: yes, there should be a comment saying that you should run the
servlet locally in these cases
... should have a new cvs directory for the servlet
ED: doesn't catch exceptions
(WG) test approved
[18]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svgrect-201-t.svg
[18] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgrect-201-t.svg
AE: need epsilon comparisons
ED: it does setFloatTrait("x", 25) on a text element, is that
allowed since it can be a list of values?
<scribe> ACTION: AE to clarify in the accessing rules for x and y
for setFloatTrait on text elements what happens if you do that and
already have a list, and that it's allowed [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-2026 - Clarify in the accessing rules
for x and y for setFloatTrait on text elements what happens if you
do that and already have a list, and that it's allowed [on Andrew
Emmons - due 2008-05-28].
<scribe> ACTION: AE to calculate the correct range for fixpoint
numbers and update the basic datatypes chapter [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-2027 - Calculate the correct range for
fixpoint numbers and update the basic datatypes chapter [on Andrew
Emmons - due 2008-05-28].
(WG) test approved
[21]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/styling-inherit-01-t.svg
[21] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/styling-inherit-01-t.svg
ED: doesn't have clear pass criteria
[22]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/spec/mobile/1.2/
1.2NG/publish/styling.html#PropertyInheritance
[22] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/spec/mobile/1.2/1.2NG/publish/styling.html#PropertyInheritance
it's 6.7 not 6.15
6.7 Property inheritance and computation
(WG) test approved
[23]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/linking-refs-206-t.svg
[23] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-refs-206-t.svg
not approved yet, has issues in the resource ball.svg
[24]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/types-basic-202-t.svg
[24] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/types-basic-202-t.svg
<aemmons> types-basicDOM-02-t.svg
ED: would like the filename to be all lowercase
AG: the operatorscript needs to be changed
AE: ok, making those fixes now
renamed to
[25]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svglocatable-204-t.svg
[25] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-204-t.svg
(WG) test approved
[26]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/linking-refs-206-t.svg
[26] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-refs-206-t.svg
(WG) test approved
[27]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svg-226-t.svg
[27] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-226-t.svg
ED: the test assumes getCurrentTime has some epsilon, but I'm not
sure the spec says anything about the required resolution
AE: ok, now checking only the lower bound
(WG) approved
[28]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-glob-202-t.svg
[28] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-glob-202-t.svg
(WG) approved
[29]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svgpoint-201-t.svg
[29] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgpoint-201-t.svg
[30]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svg-236-t.svg
[30] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-236-t.svg
(WG) approve svgpoint-201
ED: there's no e.name or e.message
(WG) approved
[31]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg
[31] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg
<ChrisL> udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg needs text changed to red/green
ok, we'll do later edits to this file
[32]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/script-element-203-t.svg
[32] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/script-element-203-t.svg
(WG) test approved
AE: we need a patchfile for the reference for this one
[33]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/linking-frag-203-t.svg
[33] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-frag-203-t.svg
(WG) approved
[34]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/linking-a03-t.svg
[34] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-a03-t.svg
[35]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/linking-a-03-t.svg
[35] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-a-03-t.svg
ED: add explicit pass criteria
(WG) approved
[36]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/linking-frag-206-t.svg
[36] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-frag-206-t.svg
[37]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/linking-frag-204-t.svg
[37] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/linking-frag-204-t.svg
(WG) approved
[38]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/extend-namespace-02-t.svg
[38] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/extend-namespace-02-t.svg
(WG) approved
[39]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svg-216-t.svg
[39] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-216-t.svg
(WG) approved
[40]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svg-232-t.svg
[40] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-232-t.svg
AE: uses e.name, e.message
(WG) approved
[41]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svg-230-t.svg
[41] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-230-t.svg
AE: e.name again
ED: I'd like some time to look at this test
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vg/media-audio-215-t.svg
[42] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/media-audio-215-t.svg
(WG) approved
AE: we need to find another soundclip though
... and we need to generate a reference image for this
[43]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg
[43] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg
<scribe> postponed
[44]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svgmatrix-204-t.svg
[44] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-204-t.svg
AG: same problems as previous one, I'll fix it
[45]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-glob-203-t.svg
[45] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-glob-203-t.svg
ED: local -> external domain security thing again
(WG) approved
[46]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg
[46] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-201-t.svg
<shepazu> here is the php script for the server access tests:
[47]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/r
esources/http_php.txt
[47] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/resources/http_php.txt
(WG) approved
[48]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svglocatable-202-t.svg
[48] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svglocatable-202-t.svg
ED: can fail a subtest but still show "passed"
AG: there's no frame around the test
(WG) approved
[49]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svgmatrix-204-t.svg
[49] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-204-t.svg
<scribe> postponed again
[50]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svg-224-t.svg
[50] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-224-t.svg
ED: unclear pass criteria
<scribe> postponed
[51]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svgmatrix-202-t.svg
[51] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-202-t.svg
AG: using old template, needs update
[52]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/struct-use-09-t.svg
[52] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/struct-use-09-t.svg
(WG) approved
[53]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svg-224-t.svg
[53] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-224-t.svg
(WG) approved
[54]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svg-225-t.svg
[54] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-225-t.svg
CL: has red-green dots, but not red-green text
(WG) approved
we need to generate the reference for this
[55]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svgmatrix-201-t.svg
[55] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-201-t.svg
<scribe> ACTION: CL to update udom-svgmatrix-201 - 207 to add color
to the messages [recorded in
[56]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-2028 - Update udom-svgmatrix-201 - 207
to add color to the messages [on Chris Lilley - due 2008-05-28].
[57]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svg-224-t.svg
[57] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-224-t.svg
[58]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svg-234-t.svg
[58] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-234-t.svg
AE: e.name, e.message
(WG) approved
[59]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svg-231-t.svg
[59] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svg-231-t.svg
(WG) approved
[60]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svgmatrix-204-t.svg
[60] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgmatrix-204-t.svg
(WG) approved
[61]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/s
vg/udom-svgcolor-201-t.svg
[61] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/repository/testsuite/1.2T/svg/udom-svgcolor-201-t.svg
(WG) approved
AG: needs to have xml:ids
<ChrisL> AE fixes
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: AE to calculate the correct range for fixpoint numbers
and update the basic datatypes chapter [recorded in
[62]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: AE to clarify in the accessing rules for x and y for
setFloatTrait on text elements what happens if you do that and
already have a list, and that it's allowed [recorded in
[63]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: CL to update udom-svgmatrix-201 - 207 to add color to
the messages [recorded in
[64]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: doug to write an automated test creation and editing
framework [recorded in
[65]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/21-svg-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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Chris Lilley mailto:chris@w3.org
Interaction Domain Leader
W3C Graphics Activity Lead
Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG
Received on Wednesday, 21 May 2008 15:51:29 UTC