RE: Testing the SVG Boilerplate

There was a bit of tongue in cheek there. Why wouldn't the users of the most popular web browser use the viewer that is tied for best for SVG support? Anyone with Adobe Creative Suite or Illustrator has the plugin whether they know it or not.  One doesn't necessarily need to "support" something that is as good as ASV, so long as you keep giving it away for free.

It would be nice to know the stats though.

D

From: Jeff Schiller [mailto:codedread@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:09 PM
To: Dailey, David P.
Cc: Robin Berjon; SVG IG List
Subject: Re: Testing the SVG Boilerplate

"Don't most users of IE have the SVG plugin though?"

My guess is No.  Adobe hasn't supported the plugin for years now.

Jeff
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Dailey, David P. <david.dailey@sru.edu<mailto:david.dailey@sru.edu>> wrote:
Hi Robin,

Very cool concept. I only have IE (8) with ASV (versions 6 through 8 have all been pretty consistent for IE/ASV, so I suspect something running in 6 7 or 8 will be pretty much the same). I don't have any IE without ASV so can't say what we'd see there. Don't most users of IE have the SVG plugin though?

What I see is Inline: nothing, the mode being used: undefined (html), and embedded: nothing.

There is a Script error at the bottom of the page which reveals:

Webpage error details

User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; InfoPath.2; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E)
Timestamp: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:56:33 UTC


Message: 'parentNode' is null or not an object
Line: 6
Char: 9
Code: 0
URI: http://svgboilerplate.com/js/shimvg.js


-----Original Message-----
From: public-svg-ig-request@w3.org<mailto:public-svg-ig-request@w3.org> [mailto:public-svg-ig-request@w3.org<mailto:public-svg-ig-request@w3.org>] On Behalf Of Robin Berjon
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:03 AM
To: SVG IG List
Subject: Testing the SVG Boilerplate

Hi all,

I don't know if you had a chance to see this, but last week I released an alpha of the SVG Boilerplate:

 http://svgboilerplate.com/

The idea is rather basic: make it possible to use SVG (both inline, including in text/html, and embedded) and automatically inject just the right amount of help (nothing, adding SMIL, adding HTML5 parsing support, bringing in SVG Web) for it to work as much as possible in all browsers. In practice, it involves some tricky nastiness to make work - hence the idea to have something like the HTML5 Boilerplate that people can just cut and paste and it just works. I think that this could definitely help with SVG adoption.

It's still alpha, but it's making progress and it now works in a bunch of situations. That's where you come in: I need testing. Back when I did client-side web development for a living on a regular basis, I had a nice set up to test a lot of browsers. That got wiped at some point and I haven't had the need to build it up again. Since I'm lazy, and have a limited amount of time, I don't feel like building this setup back up again. I could use some help with the testing :)

You can see which browsers have not been tested for at:

 http://svgboilerplate.com/status.html

As you will note, it's not quite stellar ;)

There are two test pages, one for HTML, one for XHTML, each of which has an inline and an embedded SVG. Both SVGs are of a red square that immediately gets set to green and starts rotating. If you don't see two rotating green squares it's a fail. The page also tells you which mode it's running in. I'm seeing a couple of intermittent bugs at this point, so please reload each page a few times to see what happens.

 http://svgboilerplate.com/test-page.html
 http://svgboilerplate.com/test-page.xhtml

I'm most of all interested in the various IE results, as you might guess :) And of course, you're more than welcome to come give a hand with the project, it's all open-sourced on GitHub.

Thanks for any help!

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Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/