- From: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:33:51 -0500
- To: Amelia Bellamy-Royds <amelia.bellamy.royds@gmail.com>
- Cc: public-svg-a11y@w3.org
- Message-ID: <OFAEC196F6.0A7042DF-ON86257E6F.0048A379-86257E6F.004A82E3@us.ibm.com>
Thank you Amelia. Addressing each bullet: - We do need to keep them synchronized but I can look at how we might reduce it. It is important that a user agent manufacturer be able to read this spec. and get the gist. - The issue with <desc> is it is not visible. Also, some platforms don't yet support access to structured text e.g. Mac, iOS. Even if it is structured, if structure is important then it should be visible to all users. For that we have aria-describedby but even that is limited by platforms that don't support description relationships. - I need to look at dat viz. This may be sticky issue with user agents. - tabindex on non rendered are ignored. They must not be exposed to AAPI - Role mappings that use of a generic ARIA role: One does not exist but we can create one. Most platforms expose the passed ARIA role. We could default to "graphicalobject" but I thought we agreed these would be symbols. I agree we should default to the new graphics roles. - aria-busy is a global attribute so we can put it anywhere we need to. We may wish to put something about aria-busy usage in this spec. or the ARIA specification. I am not following how aria-pressed applies. aria-pressed applies to toggle buttons typically as it reflects the pressed state. Do you want me to edit what you have or create a branch off your branch? I will take a look at what you have. Rich Schwerdtfeger From: Amelia Bellamy-Royds <amelia.bellamy.royds@gmail.com> To: public-svg-a11y@w3.org Cc: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS Date: 06/24/2015 11:15 PM Subject: SVG Accessibility API Mapping Spec: Significant edits As promised, I've spent the last few days working through the SVG Accessibility API Mapping Spec, trying to integrate all the issues we've previously discussed. The edited draft can be seen via rawGit at https://rawgit.com/AmeliaBR/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam/svg-aam.html I've tried to be fairly detailed in my commit messages, so you should be able to review the main changes from comparing github branches [2]. The biggest change is that I've created sections for excluding / including elements in the accessibility tree. I then reference these sections to simplify the role mapping table, with text along the lines of "img role mapping if the element meets the criteria for Including Elements in the Accessibility Tree; otherwise, not mapped". There are a number of issues still to be resolved, which are indicated using editor's notes: Sections 1.1 and 1.2 are almost-exact copies from the Core AAM spec; I'm not sure we need them here, but if so they will need to be kept synchronized. I am concerned that the approach we have taken for dealing with metadata elements (particularly <desc>) eliminates the possibility of having structured alternative text content that the user can navigate. The description generated via the text alternative computation is plain text only. In contrast, the SVG <desc> is supposed to support structured content, including content from HTML or other namespaces. Taylor Hunt proposed an interesting use case of having a short description with links to longer descriptions [3] but there are other use cases, like embedding a data table or ordered list as alternative content. I have followed the suggestion of the Core AAM spec and recommended that invisible elements should be excluded from the accessibility tree. However, I've added an exception for invisible elements that can receive user input events, since this is a common practice in data viz: invisible elements provide large hit regions for small data points. (A good-accessibility practice we should encourage!) The guidance ends up rather convoluted and will probably be difficult to implement. Suggestions for a better approach are very welcome. We don't have clear rules yet about what should happen if the author applies tabIndex to a non-rendered element. It should probably be ignored, but we need to say so somewhere, maybe in the main SVG spec. The role mappings still use the generic ARIA group role in many cases. However, platform APIs may have better roles (e.g., a graphics role that is allowed to have child content, a text paragraph role). We should be more specific about these mappings. Whatever mappings we suggest should also be coordinated with default mappings for the new ARIA graphics roles. I've added a brief note on declarative animation, as it relates to hiding/showing elements. However, I would like to also make the WAI-ARIA states and properties animatable, so that you could set `aria-busy` or `aria-pressed`, etc., for the duration of an animation, and update the label or description. This is another change that belongs in SVG 2, but I wanted to keep a note about it here, so it can be updated when required. Finally, there are a few other editor's notes regarding cross-references and such. And I'm sure there's lots of standard spec formatting that I'm overlooking. If people want to tweak the draft before over-writing the current editor's draft, someone would need to create a branch on the main ARIA repository. Then I can make a pull request against it. Or if I get a couple "looks good to me" votes, I can just make the pull request for it to go into master. Best, Amelia [1]: https://rawgit.com/AmeliaBR/aria/svg-aam/svg-aam/svg-aam.html [2]: https://github.com/w3c/aria/compare/master...AmeliaBR:svg-aam [3]: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2015Jun/0008.html
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