Re: Greening of Streaming

Hey folks - thanks for letting me listen in today - Very interesting.

This section of the doc that was discussed seems like the obvious touch point. We are absolutely focussed on the media asset delivery since it is that that scales the infrastructure most directly, and consumes the most energy at the client end too!

Very happy to come and talk a little about some of our early findings and on-going research if it might be useful input at some point?

Good to understand what you are up to too! Great work.

Dom


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> On 3 Oct 2023, at 18:06, Dom Robinson <dom@id3as.co.uk> wrote:
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> Hey Tim - and also coming Zoe who replied separately!
> 
> Thanks both so much for your replies. Very interesting. I would love to lurk in your monthly meeting if i can, just to get more awareness of what you are all doing…
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> Also very happy to spend 30mins on a call sharing what we are up to if you / any of the group would be interested..?
> 
> Dom
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> www.id3as.co.uk <http://www.id3as.co.uk/> 
> www.greeningofstreaming.org <http://www.greeningofstreaming.org/> 
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>> On 29 Sep 2023, at 12:02, Tim Frick <tim@mightybytes.com <mailto:tim@mightybytes.com>> wrote:
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>> Hi Dom,
>> 
>> Thanks for your message. We have many group discussions about the points you mentioned. If you'd like to get more involved, here are some steps you can take:
>> Join the group, which you can do on this page <https://www.w3.org/community/sustyweb/> (if you haven't already).
>> Read our group charter <https://www.w3.org/community/sustyweb/2022/09/06/sustainability-community-group-charter/>, which explains our mission and the scope of our work on the entire ecosystem and life cycle of digital products and services (not just network traffic), including a focus on the three pillars of sustainability (environment, social, economic).
>> Join the #sustainability channel of our Slack community <https://www.w3.org/slack-w3ccommunity-invite> to engage in group discussions.
>> Join our regular monthly meeting the last Wednesday of each month at 2pm BST. (I'm happy to send an invite if that's of interest.)
>> Read the full set of guidelines <https://w3c.github.io/sustyweb/> here.
>> Thanks again for reaching out. 
>> 
>> Tim
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>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 3:42 AM Dom Robinson <dom@id3as.co.uk <mailto:dom@id3as.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> Hi folks
>>> 
>>> I run an organisation www.greeningofstreaming.org <http://www.greeningofstreaming.org/>
>>> 
>>> The Guidelines just out caught my eye https://www.w3.org/community/sustyweb/2023/09/07/web-sustainability-guidelines/
>>> 
>>> I would love to chat a bit more about this.
>>> 
>>> Fundamentally research we have carried out and continue to carry out is clearly showing that in the distribution networks energy is not proportional to data traffic. 
>>> 
>>> This is a common misunderstanding. It leads to digital media companies being quite wed to the idea that saving data saves the planet.
>>> 
>>> We are seeing no evidence that not sending data reduces energy consumption. We have been measuring events like the world cup streaming online and more, and network energy is not related to traffic, it is related to the peak provisioned capacity of the network. Much looks to be similar in cloud.
>>> 
>>> It might be worth exploring that theme and thinking about it in terms of some of the guidelines you have been publishing..
>>> 
>>> Do let me know if you would like to find out more
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
>>> Dom
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>>> Dom Robinson
>>> www.id3as.co.uk <http://www.id3as.co.uk/> 
>>> www.greeningofstreaming.org <http://www.greeningofstreaming.org/> 
>>> uk.linkedin.com/in/domrobinson <http://uk.linkedin.com/in/domrobinson>
>>> Meet >> https://calendly.com/id3as 
>>> 
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