Re: the suggested initial goal [ Re: Welcome!

On 12/07/16 23:08, james anderson wrote:
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>> On 2016-07-12, at 23:28, Jeen Broekstra <jeen.broekstra@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jeen.broekstra@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> On 13/07/16 02:56, james anderson wrote:
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>> [snip]
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>>> yes, i did an initial example in the wiki, just to show what one 
>>> needs to be
>>> able to look at in one plac just in order to comprehdne an issue.
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>> To be honest, I have no idea what I'm looking at there - assuming 
>> we're talking about the same wiki page:
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>> https://github.com/w3c/sparql-exists/wiki/Examples
>>
>> I see two SPARQL queries, the first followed by something which 
>> vaguely looks like a template for a query solution ( a lot of "s", 
>> "p" and "o" in various layers of bracketing) and then the sentence 
>> "the dataset as turtle", the second followed by "the intended 
>> solution as csv".
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>> Admittedly I haven't quite caught up with all the correspondence yet, 
>> but none of this really clarifies what the issue is, to me.
>>
>> Or do I perhaps misunderstand and is this merely a *template* you 
>> provided, that we collectively need to fill in with _actual_ examples?
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> better, now you do understand.
> it is a mock up which draws from two of the patel-schneider cases.
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>>
>> I'll be happy to assist with formatting if someone can provide some 
>> raw data:
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>> 1. a (minimal) sample dataset
>> 2. a sample SPARQL query (we got those already)
>> 3. expected outcome of query execution on the sample dataset
>>
>> I realize point 3 is exactly where the issue/dispute/uncertainty is, 
>> but picking _some_ example outcome gives us a good starting point, 
>> both for implementors to try their engine and see how it compares, 
>> and for us all to go back to the spec and see how we 'algebraically' 
>> arrive at that outcome.
>
> exactly.
> the one purpose for that table is to get (at least) those three things 
> in one place on one page.
> best would be if there were tooling which generated such a thing - in 
> a much more compact form than the pages accompanying the current test 
> suites, from the current test declarations.
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> before embarking on a manual process, it would be good to
> a) know that no tooling exists
> b) agree on the layout.

A small point to avoid confusion: the CSV format for SPARQL results is 
lossy. It uses only strings and numbers.

The TSV form does put Turtle RDF terms as the cell contents.

     Andy

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