- From: Joshua Cornejo <josh@marketdata.md>
- Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2025 12:33:23 +0100
- To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
- CC: public-solid <public-solid@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <E025B218-DF1C-47DC-8831-8AD0D358628E@marketdata.md>
Hi, Apologies as I went from the search results from the photo in Google as it matches others I’ve reviewed in the past. Finding “JavaScript” performance comparisons is for the project to replace “client-side” JavaScript with Rust. My original question wasn’t related to the broad popularity of the programming language to be used, but the “enterprise” nature of the objective. Companies like Microsoft have been moving core enterprise services to Rust for at least 3 years now (https://www.techzine.eu/news/devops/116080/microsoft-continues-push-to-switch-code-over-to-rust/) This one compares Speed on a single task with Node.JS (35-ish times faster): https://forgen.tech/en/blog/post/why-i-switched-from-typescript-to-rust This one is for Node.js on concurrent transaction latency: https://medium.com/deno-the-complete-reference/node-js-vs-rust-performance-comparison-for-hello-world-case-2b548fb77c8c Regards, ___________________________________ Joshua Cornejo marketdata smart authorisation management for the AI-era From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> Date: Sunday, 30 March 2025 at 12:01 To: Joshua Cornejo <josh@marketdata.md> Cc: public-solid <public-solid@w3.org> Subject: Re: Proposal for a New Hyper-Modern JavaScript Solid Server ne 30. 3. 2025 v 12:55 odesílatel Joshua Cornejo <josh@marketdata.md> napsal: Hi Melvin, One of the many sites that evaluates programming performance: https://strapi.io/blog/rust-vs-other-programming-languages-what-sets-rust-apart Hi Joshua, Just a quick clarification: the chart you shared isn't showing relative speed or performance—it's actually a popularity ranking. It indicates JavaScript is roughly six times more popular among developers than Rust, which would rather be an argument in favor of JavaScript here. Best, Melvin And it is not just performance – it is type safety, memory safety, not interpreted, no garbage collection. Regards, ___________________________________ Joshua Cornejo marketdata smart authorisation management for the AI-era From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> Date: Sunday, 30 March 2025 at 11:53 To: Joshua Cornejo <josh@marketdata.md> Cc: public-solid <public-solid@w3.org> Subject: Re: Proposal for a New Hyper-Modern JavaScript Solid Server ne 30. 3. 2025 v 11:05 odesílatel Joshua Cornejo <josh@marketdata.md> napsal: Curious – Is there any reason for preferring JavaScript and not enterprise-grade languages like Rust / Go / C++ / C#? You will need 6x more servers (or be 6x slower like-to-like) compared to Rust or Go. Where is this chart from? And (as an example) you could do Rust as the foundation and use https://boajs.dev to enable the JavaScript layer. Regards, ___________________________________ Joshua Cornejo marketdata smart authorisation management for the AI-era From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> Date: Saturday, 29 March 2025 at 15:48 To: public-solid <public-solid@w3.org> Subject: Proposal for a New Hyper-Modern JavaScript Solid Server Resent-From: <public-solid@w3.org> Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 15:48:02 +0000 Dear CG, As we all know, Node Solid Server (NSS) was originally conceived over 10 years ago and has been instrumental in pioneering the Solid ecosystem. However, given its age and the evolving needs of today's web, NSS is now becoming long in the tooth and is effectively reaching its end-of-life in terms of scalability and enterprise readiness. Currently, alternatives such as CSS and Pivot, while commendable, also fall short when it comes to efficiently supporting thousands or even millions of users. I am proposing a new, hyper-modern JavaScript Solid server that leverages the latest JavaScript tooling, minimalist architecture, and advanced performance optimization techniques. The goal is to achieve enterprise-grade scalability while strictly adhering to the Solid specification, passing all tests in the Solid test suite. Key design points: Minimalistic architecture: A lean, modular core that focuses strictly on Solid specification compliance. Modern JavaScript tooling: Utilizing the latest frameworks and runtime environments (e.g., native async/await, modern V8 optimizations, optimized network I/O). Performance-first approach: Built from the ground up with scalability and speed in mind, suitable for enterprise-grade applications and high user volumes. Pure JavaScript: Targeted specifically for the JavaScript ecosystem and developers who prefer a JavaScript-only environment. I'm reaching out to gauge interest in this project. If this aligns with your interests or you have ideas and feedback, please share your thoughts. I'd also welcome collaborators interested in defining requirements, contributing to design decisions, or helping build an initial prototype. Looking forward to your feedback and discussion! Best Wishes Melvin
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