Re: Proposal for a New Hyper-Modern JavaScript Solid Server

ne 30. 3. 2025 v 13:04 odesílatel John Erickson <olyerickson@gmail.com>
napsal:

> RE the assertion, "...given its age and the evolving needs of today's
> web, NSS is now becoming long in the tooth and is effectively reaching its
> end-of-life in terms of scalability and enterprise readiness," where is the
> evidence? Has NSS had anywhere near the levels of adoption to declare it
> isn't scalable?
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Modern JavaScript frameworks and runtimes are considerably faster. I'm
unsure anyone who has run NSS feels it can scale massively, simply because
that wasn't a design goal from the start—NSS was always intended to be
refactored, but that never happened.

If you have benchmarks demonstrating that NSS can scale significantly, I'd
certainly be interested!


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> John
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> On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 6:57 AM Joshua Cornejo <josh@marketdata.md> wrote:
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>> Hi Melvin,
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>> One of the many sites that evaluates programming performance:
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>> https://strapi.io/blog/rust-vs-other-programming-languages-what-sets-rust-apart
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>> And it is not just performance – it is type safety, memory safety, not
>> interpreted, no garbage collection.
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>> Regards,
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>> ___________________________________
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>> *Joshua Cornejo*
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>> *marketdata <https://www.marketdata.md/>*
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>> *From: *Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Sunday, 30 March 2025 at 11:53
>> *To: *Joshua Cornejo <josh@marketdata.md>
>> *Cc: *public-solid <public-solid@w3.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: Proposal for a New Hyper-Modern JavaScript Solid Server
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>> ne 30. 3. 2025 v 11:05 odesílatel Joshua Cornejo <josh@marketdata.md>
>> napsal:
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>> Curious –
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>> Is there any reason for preferring JavaScript and not enterprise-grade
>> languages like Rust / Go / C++ / C#?
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>> You will need 6x more servers (or be 6x slower like-to-like) compared to
>> Rust or Go.
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>> [image: stackoverflow-rust-top-performing-languages.png]
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>> Where is this chart from?
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>> And (as an example) you could do Rust as the foundation and use
>> https://boajs.dev to enable the JavaScript layer.
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>> Regards,
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>> ___________________________________
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>> *Joshua Cornejo*
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>> *marketdata <https://www.marketdata.md/>*
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>> smart authorisation management for the AI-era
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>> *From: *Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Saturday, 29 March 2025 at 15:48
>> *To: *public-solid <public-solid@w3.org>
>> *Subject: *Proposal for a New Hyper-Modern JavaScript Solid Server
>> *Resent-From: *<public-solid@w3.org>
>> *Resent-Date: *Sat, 29 Mar 2025 15:48:02 +0000
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>> Dear CG,
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>> As we all know, Node Solid Server (NSS) was originally conceived over 10
>> years ago and has been instrumental in pioneering the Solid ecosystem.
>> However, given its age and the evolving needs of today's web, NSS is now
>> becoming long in the tooth and is effectively reaching its end-of-life in
>> terms of scalability and enterprise readiness.
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>> Currently, alternatives such as CSS and Pivot, while commendable, also
>> fall short when it comes to efficiently supporting thousands or even
>> millions of users.
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>> I am proposing a new, hyper-modern JavaScript Solid server that leverages
>> the latest JavaScript tooling, minimalist architecture, and advanced
>> performance optimization techniques. The goal is to achieve
>> enterprise-grade scalability while strictly adhering to the Solid
>> specification, passing all tests in the Solid test suite.
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>> Key design points:
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>>    - *Minimalistic architecture*: A lean, modular core that focuses
>>    strictly on Solid specification compliance.
>>    - *Modern JavaScript tooling*: Utilizing the latest frameworks and
>>    runtime environments (e.g., native async/await, modern V8 optimizations,
>>    optimized network I/O).
>>    - *Performance-first approach*: Built from the ground up with
>>    scalability and speed in mind, suitable for enterprise-grade applications
>>    and high user volumes.
>>    - *Pure JavaScript*: Targeted specifically for the JavaScript
>>    ecosystem and developers who prefer a JavaScript-only environment.
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>> I'm reaching out to gauge interest in this project. If this aligns with
>> your interests or you have ideas and feedback, please share your thoughts.
>> I'd also welcome collaborators interested in defining requirements,
>> contributing to design decisions, or helping build an initial prototype.
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>> Looking forward to your feedback and discussion!
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>> Best Wishes
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>> Melvin
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