Re: Straw Poll : Turtle vs JSON-LD

To support the discussion, have a look at the article on Datascience from Kurt Cagle: https://www.datasciencecentral.com/why-json-users-should-learn-turtle/

Greeting,

Han Wammes

> Op 4 feb 2024, om 16:18 heeft Simon Grant <asimong@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
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> Simple question, putting on my naive hat here in the hope it may contribute ... How about specifying a serialisation in JSON-LD with enough constraints so that it can be easily and accurately converted into Turtle?
> Would there be any problems with that? And would that not allow people to work with whichever serialisation that suits their needs?
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> I can imagine the problems if the interconvertibility was not completely solid, but are there real problems in specifying enough to ensure that it is?
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> Simon
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> On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 at 14:57, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com <mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Back in 2013 we decided to base WebID on the mandatory serialization using Turtle.  Soon after this Solid became the first project to take WebID and use it to create a functioning social web.
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>> Since then JSON-LD has grown in popularity.  In the WebID there has been an ongoing discussion on how it can be used in conjunction with WebID.
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>> Most recently, an idea has been floated that JSON-LD could replace Turtle in the longer-term, with turtle eventually deprecated after the eco system has moved.
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>> While this offers many advantages, such as JSON-LD's wide adoption, I had personally assumed it to be a non-starter, since Turtle seems popular in solid and is used in a lot of tooling.  But I realize that my knowledge on Solid might not be 100% up to date, and it would be better to see what the CG thinks (if anything).
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>> Let me say a few things that Turlte does, that JSON-LD does not:
>> - comments
>> - does not require async @context lookup
>> - upgrade path to TriG/n3
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>> I dont know if any of these things, or other things
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>> So I'd like to do an informal straw poll:
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>> Would there be strong objection to deprecating Turlte, in favour of JSON-LD, in the longer-term?
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>> On a long timeline that gives everyone a chance to upgrade, with conneg used in the transition period.
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>> Would be great to hear if anyone has views on Turtle vs JSON-LD.  It would be helpful in the WebID group to know if there's opinions on this in the Solid CG, for our ongoing modernization efforts.
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