Re: Straw Poll : Turtle vs JSON-LD

Simple question, putting on my naive hat here in the hope it may contribute
... How about specifying a serialisation in JSON-LD with enough constraints
so that it can be easily and accurately converted into Turtle?
Would there be any problems with that? And would that not allow people to
work with whichever serialisation that suits their needs?

I can imagine the problems if the interconvertibility was not completely
solid, but are there real problems in specifying enough to ensure that it
is?

Simon


On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 at 14:57, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Back in 2013 we decided to base WebID on the mandatory serialization using
> Turtle.  Soon after this Solid became the first project to take WebID and
> use it to create a functioning social web.
>
> Since then JSON-LD has grown in popularity.  In the WebID there has been
> an ongoing discussion on how it can be used in conjunction with WebID.
>
> Most recently, an idea has been floated that JSON-LD could replace Turtle
> in the longer-term, with turtle eventually deprecated after the eco system
> has moved.
>
> While this offers many advantages, such as JSON-LD's wide adoption, I had
> personally assumed it to be a non-starter, since Turtle seems popular in
> solid and is used in a lot of tooling.  But I realize that my knowledge on
> Solid might not be 100% up to date, and it would be better to see what the
> CG thinks (if anything).
>
> Let me say a few things that Turlte does, that JSON-LD does not:
> - comments
> - does not require async @context lookup
> - upgrade path to TriG/n3
>
> I dont know if any of these things, or other things
>
> So I'd like to do an informal straw poll:
>
> Would there be strong objection to deprecating Turlte, in favour of
> JSON-LD, in the longer-term?
>
> On a long timeline that gives everyone a chance to upgrade, with conneg
> used in the transition period.
>
> Would be great to hear if anyone has views on Turtle vs JSON-LD.  It would
> be helpful in the WebID group to know if there's opinions on this in the
> Solid CG, for our ongoing modernization efforts.
>


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