Re: Inviting volunteer self-nominations for Solid CG co-chair empty seat

st 11. 12. 2024 v 16:26 odesílatel Michiel de Jong <michiel@unhosted.org>
napsal:

> Despite what we said in this email thread, we discussed this in today's
> meeting and agreed with the people present (including the current co-chairs
> Hadrian and me, and the newly elected one elf Pavlik) that we would prefer
> staggered rotation of co-chairs, so elf Pavlik would now start a two-year
> cycle, not a one-year one.
>
> In order to make this decision we invite the opinion of CG members, and
> propose a charter change to this effect:
> https://github.com/w3c-cg/solid/pull/21
>
> If any current participant has a principled objection against this, please
> see these instructions
> <https://github.com/w3c-cg/solid/blob/main/charter/2023-09-01.md#amendments-to-this-charter>.
> If not, we'll merge it in two weeks from now, and then inaugurate elf
> Pavlik for a two year cycle.
>

I think this isn’t the best idea.

A chair leaving abruptly already disrupts the group’s cadence. Adding
staggered terms creates perpetual overlap, more process, and less momentum.
Objection processes often don’t work as intended and can have the opposite
effect. Reducing chair power risks chairs voting to expand their own powers.

I suggest chairs commit to a full term or an interim term when they stand.
If they have to step down, they should do so gracefully. The group can
either finish the term with two chairs or appoint an interim chair.

As a compromise, an interim chair could be allowed to stand for the next
full term.


>
> Cheers,
> Michiel de Jong
>
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 at 12:51, Michiel de Jong <michiel@unhosted.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for clarifying! We hadn't interpreted it that way but I guess that
>> also makes sense, and you are after all a main author of that charter text.
>> :)
>>
>> OK, so this invitation to self-nominate is to fill the third co-chair
>> seat for a *one-*year period (December 2024 - December 2025), not a
>> two-year period. Sorry for the confusion.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Michiel.
>>
>> On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 at 10:59, Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-11-21 10:03, Michiel de Jong wrote:
>>> > Hello everyone,
>>> >
>>> > Thanking Virginia for her service, and in adherence to our charter
>>> > (https://www.w3.org/community/solid/charter/ <https://www.w3.org/
>>> > community/solid/charter/>), Hadrian and I would like to invite each of
>>> > you to consider volunteering as a Solid CG co-chair, for a 2 year
>>> cycle
>>> > of service as defined by our charter. Since this chairing year is
>>> > already ending in a few weeks from now, there will be no interim
>>> > chair. For more information about CG chairs, see https://www.w3.org/
>>> > community/solid/charter/#chairs <https://www.w3.org/community/solid/
>>> > charter/#chairs>.
>>>
>>>
>>> The charter explains that an interim vacancy occurs when a chair steps
>>> down before the natural end of their "2 year cycle of service".
>>>
>>> Virginia Balseiro was appointed on 2023-12-23, meaning her natural cycle
>>> was set to end on 2025-12-22. The same holds true for the current chairs
>>> ( https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-solid/2023Dec/0027.html ).
>>>
>>> The premise you're building on is not aligned with the charter. The
>>> charter states (
>>> https://www.w3.org/community/solid/charter/#choosing-a-chair ):
>>>
>>>  >In the case of interim vacancy, the remaining chairs may appoint a
>>> co-chair for each open seat, hold an election for the same, or wait
>>> until the next election, at their discretion. If the chairs do not take
>>> any action, the seat will automatically be up for election in any cycle.
>>> Any such interim appointments or elections shall hold the seat until the
>>> end of its natural cycle.
>>>
>>> The options available are as follows:
>>>
>>> * the CG can continue with two chairs until 2025-12-22, or
>>> * the current chairs can appoint a third interim chair to serve until
>>> 2025-12-22, or
>>> * the current chairs can hold an election to fill the third co-chair
>>> seat until 2025-12-22 (see also "multiple nominees").
>>>
>>> Regardless of the option, there will be an election for all three chair
>>> seats, with new terms (expected to) starting on 2025-12-23.
>>>
>>> If you wish to set up an election now, that is of course still within
>>> the rights of the honourable chairs...
>>>
>>> -Sarven
>>> https://csarven.ca/#i
>>>
>>