Re: files or database for solid pods [Was: Towards Solid Lite]

On 10/31/23 3:45 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
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>
> út 31. 10. 2023 v 20:41 odesílatel Kingsley Idehen 
> <kidehen@openlinksw.com> napsal:
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>     Hi Melvin,
>
>     On 10/31/23 8:52 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>     > Then there are things which a triple store cant do.  Such as
>     saving my
>     > family photos.  Storing a song or playlist.  Uploading a video.
>     >
>     > The web started out by linking documents so it stands to reason
>     that
>     > flavours of solid should inherit this ability, in the general case.
>     >
>     > Does it make sense?
>
>
>     A different angle:
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>     Triple Stores and Filesytems can exist behind a common abstraction
>     layer
>     provided by HTTP. This kind of abstraction is where Solid comes into
>     play, by making such possible via Single Page Apps deployed via HTML.
>
>     That's exactly how we use Solid atop our Virtuoso platform (which
>     is a
>     DBMS, WebDAV file server, Middleware combo). Basically, you can work
>     using fileystem interaction patterns while the underlying data is
>     accessible via a number of interfaces and returned in a variety of
>     negotiated formats.
>
>
> Makes total sense.  That would be a great way to build client side apps.
>
> However a pain point right now is that it is hard to build a server, 
> or even find an existing server that is bug free.
>
> A specification to find a minimal subset of Solid to build a working, 
> bug free server, that passes tests in the test suite, is the challenge.
>
> The question is which parts of the spec could you take out, and still 
> have useful applications.
>
> Not everyone can build something like virtuoso overnight, so what 
> properties would create a minimal viable back end.


Yes, lite server implementations (that aren't full Virtuoso) are 
important. That said, a good specification should provide a binding 
layer for data stored in a variety of storage systems. This was always 
what I assumed to be ground-zero re Solid i.e., a spec implementable 
using a variety of back-end storage engines.

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