Re: Looking for a volunteer, to chair of the solid community group

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 at 14:50, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Who will be expected to chair the community, run in the organisation
> established by TimBL, to work on the project now led by TimBL, to form
> specs that may be different to TimBL's?
>
> How is that going to work?
>
> My solid based & related work (rww, WebID, verifiable claims. SemWeb,
> Etc.) Looks like:
> https://www.webizen.net.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/infosphere_actor_objects.svg.
> For instance, as my view is about an international knowledge banking
> industry...
>
> But - I have very little idea about how this group would work in defining
> new specs.  I can understand the job involved in documenting the extensive
> scope of old works, to produce full formed "API like" documentation,
>
> But defining solid from this cg?  Only TimBL can lead it imho.  I think
> the group is important, but...
>
> I am happy it's TimBL who is the man who those who want to argue about the
> viability or virtues of solid, have to contend with.  It seems far simpler
> for the rest of us that way....
>
> Always happy to help good people sleep well at night, but I am not sure
> who should lead this group.
>

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Timbl has quite a few duties right now, and is still director of the w3c.
I dont recall him chairing a group, but he may well have done.

We have quite a few representatives from the solid team in this group, so
should not be an issue getting good proposals upstream

Community groups tend to be causal, and a flat structure by default.
Participants can certainly create more structure, but by default it's a
meeting of like minded people to share and develop ideas.


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> Timo
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> On Wed., 31 Oct. 2018, 12:37 am Oshani Seneviratne, <oshanis@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Tim Holborn,
>>
>> Thank you for the email.
>> I am very excited about the SOLID project and the community. However,
>> unfortunately I will not have enough bandwidth to effectively chair this
>> community group.
>> I am however an ardent supporter of the project, and I have been and will
>> be using the concepts from the SOLID spec in my own research.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Oshani
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 5:37 AM Timothy Holborn <
>> timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is oshani or better yet, Sandro in the room?
>>>
>>> Sandro would be a clear pick...
>>>
>>> On Tue., 30 Oct. 2018, 8:26 pm Dalton Scott, <dalton@jigsaw.xyz> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Melvin,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to propose myself for chair.
>>>>
>>>> I am the Solid lead at Jigsaw XYZ, a London startup focused on
>>>> empowering people to control their personal data (
>>>> https://www.jigsaw.xyz/). We are currently exploring how Solid can be
>>>> integrated with financial services.
>>>>
>>>> As I spend 50% of work week on Solid related projects, I could easily
>>>> carve out some more time for this Community Group.
>>>>
>>>> I am also starting up a London Solid Meetup.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Dalton
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 8:39 PM Melvin Carvalho <
>>>> melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 23:54, "Phil J. Łaszkowicz" <phil@fillip.pro>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However… if Tim’s not available, happy to contribute here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My current focus is on developing an open decentralized web platform
>>>>>> primarily written in Swift / Rust as a low-level, high performance solution
>>>>>> intended to reduce the barrier for entry for non-technical web users, and
>>>>>> increase discoverability for decentralized apps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m now working on WebID-TLS & WebID-OIDC implementations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Solid aligns well with what I’ve been doing already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve not chaired before: I’ve had minor involvement in some CGs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Phil, I'd be happy to +1 you as chair
>>>>>
>>>>> The advice I was given is that having two chairs normally is quite
>>>>> nice.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I suggest we leave this open for a bit and see if anyone else has
>>>>> interest.  If it's only 1-2 people then they could simply fill the slots.
>>>>> If there's more we could vote etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I suggest we can propose items we'd like to explore, or work on.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 Oct 2018, at 22.56, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TimBL is the obvious choice
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu., 25 Oct. 2018, 4:39 am Melvin Carvalho, <
>>>>>> melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This group does not have a Chair and thus cannot publish new
>>>>>>> reports. Learn how to choose a Chair
>>>>>>> <https://www.w3.org/community/about/tool/#choose-chair>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is on the landing page of this group.  So I think we would be
>>>>>>> looking for someone to volunteer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My experience of chairing a CG is that the duties are very light.
>>>>>>> You occasionally get a message from W3C about an event - maybe once a year
>>>>>>> or so.  And you can then on top of that help out with small items of
>>>>>>> running the group.  As we are 50 members, relatively small, the amount of
>>>>>>> traffic, should be small I would guess.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Every CG decides a process for choosing a chair.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But often it's just a case of whoever volunteers.  Normally only 1
>>>>>>> or 2 people do.  Or someone will step up if no one has.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In an ideal world, more than one chair makes life a bit easier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, does anyone want to chair this group.  Feel free to say a few
>>>>>>> words, if you feel like it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If more than one person volunteers, we can have a process, such as a
>>>>>>> vote -- which I guess we'll have to work out!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>> Dalton Scott
>>>>
>>>