Re: today's meeting cancelled

benjamin.a.roberts83@gmail.com wrote on 11/20/2015 10:20:59 AM:

> From: Ben <ben@thatmustbe.me>
> To: Arnaud Le Hors/Cupertino/IBM@IBMUS
> Cc: "public-socialweb@w3.org" <public-socialweb@w3.org>
> Date: 11/20/2015 10:21 AM
> Subject: Re: today's meeting cancelled
> Sent by: benjamin.a.roberts83@gmail.com
> 
> Actually, could the chairs also keep the main page's "Next Meeting"
> and "Future Meetings" sections up to date.
> (http://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg)
> They have been continually falling behind as well. and is now over 2
> weeks out of date.
> We used to have like 3 weeks out listed there.


To my defense, you can see who's the last one to have done so. But you're 
right. The chairs should keep this up-to-date.
--
Arnaud  Le Hors - Senior Technical Staff Member, Open Web Technologies - 
IBM Software Group


> 
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Ben <ben@thatmustbe.me> wrote:
> > Honestly I think the wiki page should be created with a stub for the
> > agenda immediately after the previous meeting (if not long before
> > that) so people have a place to go to look at
> > proposed agenda items or to add new ones.
> > Looking at wiki history they are generally thrown together the day
> > before the meeting.
> > The FIFO format at least leaves us a place to find those items.
> >
> > Last meeting the previous weeks items weren't added until during the
> > meeting.  We obviously haven't adjusted to it yet.
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Arnaud Le Hors <lehors@us.ibm.com> 
wrote:
> >> benjamin.a.roberts83@gmail.com wrote on 11/20/2015 04:25:40 AM:
> >>
> >>> From: Ben <ben@thatmustbe.me>
> >>> To: Arnaud Le Hors/Cupertino/IBM@IBMUS
> >>> Cc: "public-socialweb@w3.org" <public-socialweb@w3.org>, Sandro
> >>> Hawke <sandro@w3.org>, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
> >>> Date: 11/20/2015 04:25 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: today's meeting cancelled
> >>> Sent by: benjamin.a.roberts83@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>> The problem with the left over from the last week was that they all
> >>> had to do with AS2 and we didn't have either editor going to be on 
the
> >>> call. So those items were all not really discussable.
> >>
> >> There was at least Aaron's agenda item that has been pushed back two 
weeks
> >> already that should have been put on the agenda.
> >> And while this may not have been enough to warrant holding a call it 
is
> >> independent of the fact that people shouldn't have been left 
wondering
> >> without any agenda to look at.
> >> --
> >> Arnaud  Le Hors - Senior Technical Staff Member, Open Web 
> Technologies - IBM
> >> Software Group
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Arnaud Le Hors <lehors@us.ibm.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Hi all,
> >>> > I apologize for the confusion that led to the cancellation of this
> >>> > week's
> >>> > call. Evan and I weren't available this week.
> >>> >
> >>> > While it is nice when WG members help set up the agenda, 
ultimately it
> >>> > is
> >>> > the chair's responsibility to ensure the agenda is set before the 
call,
> >>> > with
> >>> > as much as possible enough lead time for people to prepare. Tantek
> >>> > apparently said there wasn't anything to talk about but he 
evidently
> >>> > failed
> >>> > to take into account the agenda items left over from last week and 
that
> >>> > should have been carried over to this week's agenda. This has 
always
> >>> > been
> >>> > the case but it is even more true with the FIFO agenda model we've
> >>> > adopted.
> >>> >
> >>> > The chairs and team will have to discuss this and see that it 
doesn't
> >>> > happen
> >>> > again.
> >>> > --
> >>> > Arnaud  Le Hors - Senior Technical Staff Member, Open Web 
Technologies -
> >>> > IBM
> >>> > Software Group
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote on 11/17/2015 
09:24:32
> >>> > AM:
> >>> >
> >>> >> From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
> >>> >> To: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
> >>> >> Cc: "public-socialweb@w3.org" <public-socialweb@w3.org>
> >>> >> Date: 11/17/2015 09:24 AM
> >>> >> Subject: Re: today's meeting cancelled
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On 17 November 2015 at 18:10, Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org> wrote:
> >>> >> many regrets, and no agenda items proposed
> >>> >>
> >>> >> <tantek> greetings #social - since no one has added anything to 
the
> >>> >> agenda for today, and I am your chair today, I am cancelling the
> >>> >> telcon.
> >>> >> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-11-17
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >> FYI: for future reference
> >>> >>
> >>> >> <tantek> making a point, if no one thought anything in particular
> >>> >> was important enough to put on the agenda, then better if we 
cancel
> >>> >> and give people the time back
> >>> >> <tantek> sandro - no - if no one brings up a specific issue as 
being
> >>> >> worthy of synchronous time - then it is better NOT to waste
> >>> >> everyone's synchronous time with boring issue iteration
> >>> >> <tantek> please continue asynchronously everyone. thank you!
> >>>
> >>
>