Re: standardizing webmention

I think the question of whether the JSON syntax is needed in everything 
is very much open.

I'd rather not standardize on a federation protocol that isn't based on 
the Social Syntax we standardize.

-Evan

On 2015-07-15 05:40 AM, Ben wrote:
> I'm pretty sure Amy was being facetious.  There is no real need for 
> this to be JSON.  All it does is add extra parsing.  The JSON syntax 
> of the charter is not needed in everything, unless you go to the 
> absurd extreme of saying that TCP is not JSON based and therefore 
> cannot be part of the socialAPI.  Webmention is just that, a lower 
> level of just notifying that a reference exists.  Parsing that source 
> is entirely open for discussion.
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Melvin Carvalho 
> <melvincarvalho@gmail.com <mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>     On 15 July 2015 at 12:49, Amy G <amy@rhiaro.co.uk
>     <mailto:amy@rhiaro.co.uk>> wrote:
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>         So... if a webmention endpoint accepted
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>         {"source":"http://example.com/post","target":"http://elpmaxe.org/post"}
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>         instead of
>         source=http://example.com/post&target=http://elpmaxe.org/post
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>         is that what you'd want to see?
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>     Potentially, yes.  As long as it passes the test suite for the
>     common JSON syntax this group ends up agreeing on.
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>
>         I don't think I understand your PHP reference.
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>         On 15 July 2015 at 11:30, Melvin Carvalho
>         <melvincarvalho@gmail.com <mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>>
>         wrote:
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>             On 15 July 2015 at 12:20, Amy G <amy@rhiaro.co.uk
>             <mailto:amy@rhiaro.co.uk>> wrote:
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>                 Webmention itself doesn't care about the data
>                 structure of the source. If you can retrieve JSON from
>                 the source URL (whether by parsing microformats,
>                 content negotiation, or following a link rel or
>                 whatever) then this works just fine according to the
>                 charter.
>
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>             I get what you are saying. Replace "webmention" in the
>             sentence above with "PHP".  It would be an equally true
>             sentence.
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>             In general the point, was not about what webmention can
>             reference or process.  It was about what it accepts.  What
>             I think would be nice is if all the technologies we have
>             on the REC track could support the common JSON social syntax.
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>                 On 15 July 2015 at 09:42, Melvin Carvalho
>                 <melvincarvalho@gmail.com
>                 <mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>                     On 15 July 2015 at 08:19, Amy G <amy@rhiaro.co.uk
>                     <mailto:amy@rhiaro.co.uk>> wrote:
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>                         > For example sending a direct message via a
>                         JSON activity stream, is one of the user stories.
>
>                         Which user story mentions json or activity
>                         streams?
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>                     The charter does.
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