Re: clear strategy for multiple AS2.0 serializations?

The examples are non-normative. The easiest thing to do is to simply
explicitly mark them as such.

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Harry Halpin <> wrote:
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> On 01/29/2015 09:32 PM, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ wrote:
>> Howdy!
>> This email acts as sort of follow up on one I've send on Dec 1st
>> and which didn't receive any replies
>>  I just picked up again work on automated testing of RDF based
>> serializations and just fixed errors in first three Turtle
>> examples.
>> It may take me some time to fix errors in most of the remaining
>> Turtle examples and then check all the RDFa as well. But in the end
>> we will have automated tests proving that all JSON-LD, RDFa and
>> Turtle examples serialize exactly the same RDF graphs.
>> After that I could take a look at possibility of contributing RDFa
>> and Turtle support to
>> Porting it to ruby
>> also should come as straight forward process using existing
>> libraries!
>> Looking at latest WD
>> "This specification describes a JSON-based [RFC7159] serialization
>> syntax for the Activity Vocabulary that follows the conventions
>> defined by the [JSON-LD] specification. While serialization forms
>> other than JSON-LD are possible, alternatives are not discussed by
>> this document."
>> Still it provides examples in JSON-LD, Microdata, RDFa,
>> Microformats and Turtle. I think we could add little more
>> clarification about their purpose in the spec!
> - From the perspective of the charter, those examples could be removed.
> However, I see no harm done in keeping them (or in one or a series of
> appendices per format) if there are objections or confusions caused in
> Last Call.  Ofcourse, the Microdata/RDFa/Microformat issue remains one
> of standardizaton failure insofar as the same use-case is addressed by
> three conflicting syntaes, but that's beyond our WG's charter to fix :)
> Nonetheless, any fans of particular syntaxes are encouraged to build
> test-suites for any of them, although normatively we'll focus on JSON
> for CR.
>> I have two questions here: * Does someone plan to create automated
>> tests for Microdata and Microformat examples, similar to what I
>> work on for RDFa and Turtle? * Does someone plan to contribute
>> Microdata and Microformats support to activitystreams.js or any
>> other AS2.0 implementation?
>> Personally I would recommend using RDFa over Microdata. I just
>> created placeholder to capture limitations on
>> extensibility related to use of Microdata.
>>  When it comes to Microformats, I would personally see more
>> interest in helping with toolchain for migrating currently deployed
>> systems to RDFa.
>> IMO support for Microdata and Microformats might require some kind
>> of recommendation for *graceful degradation*, especially if at some
>> point we will get to digitally signing the content. I will happily
>> see others proving me wrong here.
> There is more support in the wild for both Microformats by far than
> RDFa BTW, and more RDFa (due to "Like" button I believe) than
> micordata. Thus, I think if we keep *any* of them, we have to keep all
> three. If we have to keep one, we should probably chose microformats.
> Again, people can work however they want to push their favorite syntax.
> I would not think that having support for one of these syntaxes would
> prevent an implementation from being conformant, but of course we
> would welcome. However, an implementation that does not accept JSON
> would be non-con-formant.
>    cheers,
>         harry
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>> Cheers!
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