Re: Boeing resignations (hopefully temporary for me)

On 1 October 2015 at 17:39, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
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> On 1 October 2015 at 15:02, Krebs, Edward (E.C.) <ekrebs@ford.com> wrote:
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>> There are some good architecture starting points. The social Headlights
>> task Force started on this path. I suggested one view based on that initial
>> work in the *Workshop on Social Standards* in August 2013.
>> http://www.w3.org/2013/socialweb/papers/An%20Enterprise%20Social%20Network%20Reference%20Architecture.pdf
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>> IBM presented one in 2014:
>> http://www.slideshare.net/heathwulf/social-architecture-1-h2014
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> Thanks Edward, these are great slides.
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> What really struck me was the call for a:
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> - People Centric
> - Relationship Driven
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> architecture.  I think the work we've started out on has a gap here.
> While there's a lot of work done to cater for micro blogging enthusiasts
> the enterprise has been less well served, imho.
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> I think these presentations could be a great basis to create an
> architecture document, which is missing, not just in this group, but in the
> social web in general.  In creating a people centric, relationship driven
> architecture we can talk about people and relationships.  How this can be
> achieved technically, as part of a social graph.  The declarative nature
> using the law of least power.  Having open ended extensibility to cater for
> enterprise use cases as well as common social networking features.
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> Essentially creating the awww [1] of the social web.  An essential
> document for anyone creating a system in the social web, either in an
> enterprise or public setting, that will cover all the base work needed to
> get started with real world use cases.  It's something that's been missing
> for 10 years, and imho, one reason that has lead to balkanization.
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> This is an IG deliverable.  Would anyone in the IG wish to help with
> this?
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> Where could we get started -- perhaps a wiki page, then migrate to a
> github repo?
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elf has suggested building on :

http://w3c-social.github.io/social-arch/

Which I think is a great idea.  I've chatted to Amy too, who hopefully may
have some cycles free to collaborate.

Input here or on in the github issues very welcome! :)


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> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/
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>> Regards,
>> Edward C. Krebs
>> Enterprise Architect
>> Enterprise Technology Research
>> Ford Motor Company Information Technology
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>> *Quote of the day:*
>> "The best way to predict the future is to invent it." --* Alan Kay*
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>> *From:* Melvin Carvalho [mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2015 5:08 PM
>> *To:* Bassetti, Ann
>> *Cc:* Larry Hawes; Social Web Working Group;
>> public-social-interest@w3.org
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>> *Subject:* Re: Boeing resignations (hopefully temporary for me)
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>> On 30 September 2015 at 17:17, Bassetti, Ann <ann.bassetti@boeing.com>
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>> Actually, an Invited Expert can be a Chair.... so, come ahead, Larry! (or
>> anyone else?)  I'd love to have a co-chair!  -- Ann
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>> PS. I'm online, in our WebEx session, right now.  I'll hang out there for
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>> Thanks Ann.
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>> I was on the call today and we had an informal chat about use of social
>> web at boeing and the IG deliverables.
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>> Regarding the IG deliverables we talked about the user stories, minor
>> objections and ways to group them.
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>> We also looked at the other possible deliverables of a social
>> architecture document and vocabs.  Personally I think vocabs is being
>> covered quite well in Jame's work, so hopefully that can be built upon.
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>> Regarding a social architecture my thought was that many user stories
>> have pre-requites that are not documented anywhere.  Some kind of overview
>> document that could cover general web and social web architecture, and how
>> that sets the scene for implementors to build user stories could be useful,
>> as it doesnt seem to exist anywhere else.  For example, some user stories
>> might state "Alice is following Bob" but an implementor may not know what
>> that means or find it too ambiguous to get started.  We thought about
>> examining such assumptions together and how that could underly
>> implementations in both the enterprise and micro blogging scenarios which
>> could see varied usage.
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>> *From:* Larry Hawes [mailto:larry@dowbrook.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2015 5:41 AM
>> *To:* Bassetti, Ann
>> *Cc:* Social Web Working Group; public-social-interest@w3.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Boeing resignations (hopefully temporary for me)
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>> Ann,
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>> This is awful news for the group, even if your absence will be temporary
>> and relatively short. I too hope Sandro will step up and chair the IG (I'm
>> not a full W3C member and, thus, ineligible to do so). We'll miss you and
>> hope to have you involved again in three months. Be well until then.
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>> Larry
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>> ---- On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:53:58 -0400 *Ann Bassetti
>> <ann.bassetti@boeing.com <ann.bassetti@boeing.com>>* wrote ----
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>> Hello Social Web WG and IG folks –
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>> I'm writing to let you know my status for the next few months...
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>> As some of you know, I am the Boeing representative to the W3C. I am sad
>> to report that I have not been able to nail down the funding (due on Sept.
>> 30th) for our continued membership.  Thus, day after tomorrow, I must
>> resign all Boeing participants from their respective Working Groups.  This
>> will included dropping me, Adam Boyet and Mark Bryant from the Social Web
>> WG and IG.
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>> Once Boeing drops the membership, no one who is a member may apply to be
>> a W3C Invited Expert.  (This is per the W3C Process, which is very clear on
>> that point. Logically, they don't want companies to 'cheat' on their
>> membership fees by putting people into groups as IEs.)
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>> Personally, I hope to continue with the W3C in some new role after I
>> leave Boeing – as yet, unclear what. For me there is a 3-month awkward
>> phase. In this time when I am still a Boeing employee, but the company is
>> not a member, I may not be an Invited Expert. When I am officially gone
>> from Boeing, I expect to request Invited Expert status.  I hope Sandro will
>> chair the Social Web Interest Group for the next 3 months, and then I hope
>> to pick it up again in my 'new' life. Maybe he'll figure out how to
>> reinvigorate the group while I'm gone!
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>> Since it only occurs once/year, I am going to the TPAC in October  –
>> self-funded, using up my vacation time, and as a 'free agent'.  (To
>> formalize my attendance, I'll be there as an invited guest of Jeff Jaffe
>> (W3C CEO).) Although we are not having a formal F2F meeting of the Social
>> WG/IG, I hope to hold a session on this topic, as well as consult with
>> others  on what we're doing, what they want from "social", and why don't
>> they participate? I hope Tantek, Amy, Arnaud, (anyone else attending TPAC?)
>> will want to share hosting such a session. (It would be interesting to hear
>> any questions you have, or messages you'd like passed along!)
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>> So – have good meetings for the next 3 months. I look forward to
>> reconnecting in early 2016.
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>>   -- Ann
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>> Ann Bassetti
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>> The Boeing Company
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>> mobile:  +1.206.218.8039
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>> email:  ann.bassetti@boeing.com
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