- From: John Arwe <johnarwe@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:20:28 -0500
- To: public-sml@w3.org
- Message-ID: <OFFBD31646.1CFA98F9-ON85257546.00070CEB-85257546.00075D64@us.ibm.com>
Kumar/Len, it appears you may be scribing this week.
Chair: when sending out an agenda, use following format
[w3c sml][agenda] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email
([agenda] agreed to,
rest chair's convention)
Chair: when sending out an updated agenda, use following format,
"n" = update number, 1st update == 2, etc.
[w3c sml][agenda][ver n] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email
([agenda] agreed to,
rest chair's convention)
Scribe: read entire agenda, your "to do"s around the scribe list are
time-sequenced so there is less to remember.
The WG's administrative home page documents:
The phone number to use for the SML WG teleconference:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#phone
Participants are invited to join IRC channel:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#irc
Teleconference Time and Length (two hours)
Pacific 11 AM - 1 PM
Mountain 12 PM - 2 PM
Central 1 PM - 3 PM
Eastern 2 PM - 4 PM
UK 7 PM - 9 PM
Paris 8 PM - 10 PM
Beijing 2 AM - 4 AM (sorry)
Publication moratorium for the rest of this year:
* 18 March 2009: Deadline for publication requests
before moratorium [12pm ET]
* 20 March: Last publications before moratorium
* 21 - 26 March: No publications.
* 27 March: Publications resume.
Proposed Agenda:
1. Prolog
1.1. Roll call (present/regrets/absent)
1.2. Selection of Scribe based on list below
New scribes see:
- Scribe Quick Start Guide
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
- Scribe FAQ
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html
- Instructions (steps "n-...") at the end of this agenda for reviewing
and sending out minutes
- PLEASE make any new Actions fully self-describing so they do not
require the minutes as context. We found it awkward in the past to
require going back to the minutes for context.
Last Scribe Date Member Name Regrets pending
2008-05-22 Lynn, James Until further notice
2008-10-29 Pandit, Kumar
2008-12-11 Wilson, Kirk 1/22
2008-12-18 Charest, Len
2009-01-08 Smith, Virginia
2009-01-15 Gao, Sandy
Exempt Arwe, John
Exempt MSM
1.3. Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s):
- http://www.w3.org/XML/SML/#records
- 01/15
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Jan/att-0025/20090115-sml-minutes.html
1.4. "from the CG" http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#schedule
- (no change) Next F2F M-W week of Feb 23 2009, hosted by Intel, Austin
TX
- SML NOT attending F2F
1.5. Action items: goes faster if you update yours before the meeting...
http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/sml/
1.7. TC transition plan
- Henry is OK with the 12:30-1:30 Mon proposal if we want to go with
that
- Select a time+day and move our weekly meeting to the new time
starting
with the first meeting in February.
2. New Work
2.1. Triage bugs with no keywords or target
3. Existing Work
3.1. Review and attempt to reach consensus on other non-editorial bugs
targeted for the next draft.
Within each cluster, typically we look at them in this order
"decided" (after the 2-week grace period for responses ends)
"needsReview" (either we have consensus,
it's no longer needsReview,
or the editors need to re-spin the proposed text)
"hasProposal"
"externalComments + reviewerNotSatisfied" - even if closed,
e.g. 5543, 5562
"externalComments + neither( reviewerNotSatisfied
, reviewerSatisfied )"
aka "reach out again?"
others
3.2. Implementation report
- I will send a new draft prior to the meeting, after Kumar finishes
some updates and
re-exports to XML
- Need consensus on questions from
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Jan/0041.html
- Need consensus on metric of actual==expected tests that qualifies as
"good enough"
to demonstrate implementation experience.
3.3. PR Transition
- See if we have consensus to request a transition to PR
4. Epilog
4.1. Scribe: update scribe list below in this meeting's minutes, for use
in the next meeting's agenda. Update the list below and sort it
(LRU), leaving people who will be out for an extended period near
the bottom to keep the names of draftees for the current meeting
near the top, so when the next agenda goes out people will know
if
their name is at or near the top of the list to scribe next.
Last Scribe Date Member Name Regrets pending
2008-05-22 Lynn, James Until further notice
2008-10-29 Pandit, Kumar
2008-12-11 Wilson, Kirk 1/22
2008-12-18 Charest, Len
2009-01-08 Smith, Virginia
2009-01-15 Gao, Sandy
Exempt Arwe, John
Exempt MSM
4.2. Scribe: follow the steps in the Scribe Quick Start Guide through
"Generate minutes"
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
Also issue the command "rrsagent, make log public" since we are a
public working group.
DO NOT use tools that significantly change the source html, like
Word, to do your editing. Those tools make compare tools to
sanity
check the scribe's edits unusable even though it renders fine
visually (even here, some like Word remove W3C style sheets so it
renders with subtle differences).
4.3. Scribe: (optional, but most often followed)
Send the original and updated minutes to the meeting chair as an
editorial check before sending to the full list. Assume the chair
will use a compare tool.
4.4. Scribe: send the minutes to the public mailing list
After the meeting, follow the conventions we have agreed on within
the wg to help people search the email archives more effectively,
namely:
[w3c sml][minutes] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email
([minutes] agreed to,
rest chair's convention)
As with agendas, if minutes are updated include a [ver n] "tag" as
well.
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4.5. Chair
After meeting, update good standing list
Received on Thursday, 22 January 2009 01:21:12 UTC