- From: Pratul Dublish <Pratul.Dublish@microsoft.com>
- Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:10:14 -0700
- To: "public-sml@w3.org" <public-sml@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <DDFDE4AB460796459954B24853E198502CBA4E104F@NA-EXMSG-C122.redmond.corp.microsoft>
Sandy -> Kirk will be scribing today.
Chair: when sending out an agenda, use following format
[w3c sml][agenda] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email ([agenda]
agreed to, rest chair's convention)
Chair: when sending out an updated agenda, use following format, "n" =
update number, 1st update == 2, etc.
[w3c sml][agenda][ver n] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email ([agenda]
[ver n] agreed to, rest chair's convention)
Scribe: read entire agenda, I restructured it so your "to do"s around the
scribe list are time-sequenced
i.e. less to remember
The phone number to use for the SML WG teleconference is documented on the
WG's administrative home page:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#phone
Participants are invited to join IRC channel, as documented on the WG's
administrative home page:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#irc
Teleconference Time and Length (two hours)
Pacific 11 AM - 1 PM
Mountain 12 PM - 2 PM
Central 1 PM - 3 PM
Eastern 2 PM - 4 PM
UK 7 PM - 9 PM
Paris 8 PM - 10 PM
Beijing 2 AM - 4 AM (sorry)
Publication moratorium for the rest of this year:
13 October, 12pm ET: Deadline for publication requests
before moratorium
16 October: Last publications before moratorium
17 - 26 October: No publications
27 October: Publications resume
18 December, 12pm ET: Deadline for publication requests
before moratorium
22 December: Last publications before moratorium
23 December - 1 January: No publications
2 January 2009: Publications resume
Proposed Agenda:
1. Roll call (present/regrets/absent)
2. Selection of Scribe based on list below
New scribes see:
- Scribe Quick Start Guide
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
- Scribe FAQ
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html
- Instructions (steps "n-...") at the end of this agenda for reviewing
and sending out minutes
- PLEASE make any new Actions fully self-describing so they do not
require the minutes as context.
We found it awkward in the past to require going back to the minutes
for context.
Last Scribe Date Member Name Regrets pending
2008-05-22 Lynn, James Until further notice
2008-07-10 McCarthy, Julia Until further notice
2008-09-04 Gao, Sandy
2008-09-11 Wilson, Kirk
2008-09-18 Smith, Virginia
2008-09-25 Kumar, Pandit
Exempt Arwe, John
Exempt Dublish, Pratul
Exempt MSM
3. Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s):
- http://www.w3.org/XML/SML/#records
- 9/25 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Oct/att-0000/2008-09-25-minutes.htm
4. Revised SML charter submitted to XML CG - members should review http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-cg/2008Sep/att-0025/Service_Modeling_Language_Working_Group_Charter.htm
5. Continue interop test plan discussion.
6. Start reviewing the test cases at http://wiki.eclipse.org/COSMOS_SML_Test_Plan and decide the test cases which will be in our interop test suite.
n-5. Review bugs with no keywords or target (none as of this writing!)
n-4. Review and attempt to reach consensus on other non-editorial bugs
targeted for the next draft.
Within each cluster, typically we look at them in this order
"decided" (after the 2-week grace period for responses ends)
"needsReview" (either we have consensus, it's no longer
needsReview, or the editors need to re-spin the proposed text)
"hasProposal"
"externalComments + reviewerNotSatisfied" - even if closed,
e.g. 5543, 5562
"externalComments + neither( reviewerNotSatisfied ,
reviewerSatisfied )" aka "reach out again?"
others
If the working group comes to an agreement in principle on the
disposition of the remaining
substantive bugs (as of this agenda: 5542, 5600, 5741), then it
should also seek consensus
for when to publish the next Last Call Public Working Draft on the
assumption that the editors
will draft acceptable text quickly. In other words, consensus on
publishing on a specific
date means that the expectation is to publish then, and the date
moves out ONLY if acceptable
text cannot be agreed to in time.
Those with a Target Milestone of CR we may not spend time on
during this week's call. They do not gate LC.
n-3. Scribe: update scribe list below in this meeting's minutes, for use
in the next meeting's agenda:
Update the list below and sort it (LRU), leaving people who will be out
for an extended period near the bottom
to keep the names of draftees for the current meeting near the top, so
when the next agenda goes out people
will know if their name is at or near the top of the list to scribe
next.
Last Scribe Date Member Name Regrets pending
2008-05-22 Lynn, James Until further notice
2008-07-10 McCarthy, Julia Until further notice
2008-09-04 Gao, Sandy
2008-09-11 Wilson, Kirk
2008-09-18 Smith, Virginia
2008-09-25 Kumar, Pandit
Exempt Arwe, John
Exempt Dublish, Pratul
Exempt MSM
n-2. Scribe: follow the steps in the Scribe Quick Start Guide through
"Generate minutes"
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
Also issue the command "rrsagent, make log public" since we are a
public workgroup.
DO NOT use tools that significantly change the source html, like Word,
to do your editing.
Those tools make compare tools to sanity check the scribe's edits
unusable even though it
renders fine visually (even here, some like Word remove W3C style
sheets so it renders
with subtle differences).
n-1. Scribe: (optional, but most often followed)
Send the original and updated minutes to the meeting chair as an
editorial check before
sending to the full list. Assume the chair will use a compare tool.
n. Scribe: send the minutes to the public mailing list
After the meeting, follow the conventions we have agreed on within the
wg to help
people search the email archives more effectively, namely:
[w3c sml][minutes] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email ([minutes]
agreed to, rest chair's convention)
As with agendas, if minutes are updated include a [ver n] "tag" as well.
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n+1. Chair
After meeting, update good standing list
Received on Thursday, 2 October 2008 14:11:03 UTC