- From: John Arwe <johnarwe@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:52:41 -0400
- To: public-sml@w3.org
- Message-ID: <OFE3FC19AB.644DEE69-ON8525746C.0056EE38-8525746C.005738D6@us.ibm.com>
PLEASE NOTE! If you wish our meetings to go faster, see section n-4
Julia/Ginny, it appears you may be scribing this week.
Chair: when sending out an agenda, use following format
[w3c sml][agenda] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email ([agenda]
agreed to, rest chair's convention)
Chair: when sending out an updated agenda, use following format, "n" =
update number, 1st update == 2, etc.
[w3c sml][agenda][ver n] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email ([agenda]
[ver n] agreed to, rest chair's convention)
Scribe: read entire agenda, I restructured it so your "to do"s around the
scribe list are time-sequenced
i.e. less to remember
The phone number to use for the SML WG teleconference is documented on the
WG's administrative home page:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#phone
Participants are invited to join IRC channel, as documented on the WG's
administrative home page:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#irc
Teleconference Time and Length (two hours)
Pacific 11 AM - 1 PM
Mountain 12 PM - 2 PM
Central 1 PM - 3 PM
Eastern 2 PM - 4 PM
UK 7 PM - 9 PM
Paris 8 PM - 10 PM
Beijing 2 AM - 4 AM (sorry)
Publication moratorium for the rest of this year:
13 October, 12pm ET: Deadline for publication requests
before moratorium
16 October: Last publications before moratorium
17 - 26 October: No publications
27 October: Publications resume
18 December, 12pm ET: Deadline for publication requests
before moratorium
22 December: Last publications before moratorium
23 December - 1 January: No publications
2 January 2009: Publications resume
Proposed Agenda:
1. Roll call (present/regrets/absent)
2. Selection of Scribe based on list below
New scribes see:
- Scribe Quick Start Guide
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
- Scribe FAQ
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html
- Instructions (steps "n-...") at the end of this agenda for reviewing
and sending out minutes
- PLEASE make any new Actions fully self-describing so they do not
require the minutes as context.
We found it awkward in the past to require going back to the minutes
for context.
Last Scribe Date Member Name Regrets pending
2008-04-17 McCarthy, Julia
2008-05-15 Smith, Virginia
2008-05-22 Lynn, James
2008-05-29 Wilson, Kirk
2008-06-05 Gao, Sandy
2008-06-12 Kumar, Pandit
Exempt Arwe, John
Exempt Dublish, Pratul
Exempt MSM
Exempt PH
3. Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s):
- http://www.w3.org/XML/SML/#records
- 6/12 minutes outstanding
4. "from the CG" http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#schedule
- The rest of the XML Activity appears to be gravitating toward the
week we selected
in October (week of 27-31, with us meeting 28th-30th)... they're
still orbiting, but
have not crashed yet.
5. Action items: goes faster if you update yours before the meeting...
http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/sml/
n-5. Review bugs with no keywords or target
n-4. Review and attempt to reach consensus on other non-editorial bugs
targeted for the next draft.
In an attempt to focus people's before-meeting preparation, and
hopefully make better use of
the time, please look at these bugs and update with your comments
before the meeting.
Odds are they are not contentious, all have proposals for review.
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5499
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5710
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5712
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5715
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5741
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5761
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5680
Those that are a bit more complex, i.e. they would BENEFIT from
looking at it beforehand,
and have proposals.
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5679
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5720
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5760
Those that appear to be tractable
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5638
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5721
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5740
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5653
Within each cluster, typically we look at them in this order
"decided" (after the 2-week grace period for responses ends)
"needsReview" (either we have consensus, it's no longer
needsReview, or the editors need to re-spin the proposed text)
"hasProposal"
"externalComments + reviewerNotSatisfied"
"externalComments + neither( reviewerNotSatisfied ,
reviewerSatisfied )" aka "reach out again?"
others
The following we will likely not spend time on during this week's
call. They do not gate
LC, and/or based on experience they clearly need more discussion
than we are likely to get
during the call.
4633 CR namespaces
5341 EPR note
5390 EPR note
5519 Schema validity
5542 base URI
5546 MIME vs SMLIF
5561 XLink - need draft
n-3. Scribe: update scribe list below in this meeting's minutes, for use
in the next meeting's agenda:
Update the list below and sort it (LRU), leaving people who will be out
for an extended period near the bottom
to keep the names of draftees for the current meeting near the top, so
when the next agenda goes out people
will know if their name is at or near the top of the list to scribe
next.
Last Scribe Date Member Name Regrets pending
2008-04-17 McCarthy, Julia
2008-05-15 Smith, Virginia
2008-05-22 Lynn, James
2008-05-29 Wilson, Kirk
2008-06-05 Gao, Sandy
2008-06-12 Kumar, Pandit
Exempt Arwe, John
Exempt Dublish, Pratul
Exempt MSM
Exempt PH
n-2. Scribe: follow the steps in the Scribe Quick Start Guide through
"Generate minutes"
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
Also issue the command "rrsagent, make log public" since we are a
public workgroup.
DO NOT use tools that significantly change the source html, like Word,
to do your editing.
Those tools make compare tools to sanity check the scribe's edits
unusable even though it
renders fine visually (even here, some like Word remove W3C style
sheets so it renders
with subtle differences).
n-1. Scribe: (optional, but most often followed)
Send the original and updated minutes to the meeting chair as an
editorial check before
sending to the full list. Assume the chair will use a compare tool.
n. Scribe: send the minutes to the public mailing list
After the meeting, follow the conventions we have agreed on within the
wg to help
people search the email archives more effectively, namely:
[w3c sml][minutes] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email ([minutes]
agreed to, rest chair's convention)
As with agendas, if minutes are updated include a [ver n] "tag" as well.
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n+1. Chair
After meeting, update good standing list
Received on Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:53:27 UTC