[smart-cities] minutes - 17 February 2025

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  https://www.w3.org/2025/02/17-smart-cities-minutes.html


also as text below.

Thanks,

Kazuyuki

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   [1]W3C

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              Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG

17 February 2025

   [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.

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Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiniko_Toumura, Lieven_Raes,
          Linda_van_den_Brink, Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool,
          Raul_Garcia_Castro, Song_Xu, Tomoaki_Mizushima

   Regrets
          -

   Chair
          Koster

   Scribe
          kaz, mjk, McCool

Contents

    1. [4]Introductions
    2. [5]Logistics
         1. [6]Meeting schedule
         2. [7]GitHub
         3. [8]Any other logistics issue?
    3. [9]Quick review of IG Charter
    4. [10]Discussion
         1. [11]Liaisons
         2. [12]Existing resources
         3. [13]Deliverables?
    5. [14]Next meeting
    6. [15]Summary of action items

Meeting minutes

  Introductions

   Koster: working on smart building. device architect
   … also co-chairing WoT and bunch of standards

   (Michael Koster is the Chair of the IG)

   Kaz: Team Contact

   Song: China Mobile

   Mizushima: IRI japan
   … working on WoT WG/IG

   Lieven: interested in Digital Twins
   … quite a lot experience
   … predict the impact of the smart cities

   McCool: Intel
   … also co-Chair of WoT
   … a lot experience on parallel computing, edge computing, AI,
   ...

   Raul: work at university Madrid
   … ontology-related research
   … knowledge graph, etc., also
   … committing to SSN Ontology

   Linda: Geonovum from Netherland
   … also working for OGC
   … used to chair the SDW group

   Toumura: Hitachi
   … working on integration
   … want to know how to combine multiple technologies

   Song: (better audio)
   … co-Chairing the Web&Networks IG
   … working with McCool about several projects
   … also work for W3C as AB

  Logistics

    Meeting schedule

   McCool: we have two slots
   … there are pros and cons

   <Song> Sorry to correct, AB not BoD. :) kaz

   McCool: maybe we could move this one hour later, for example

   [16]1st Doodle

     [16] https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/e7Yy1x1b


   Kaz: if we can move that call, we can consider that as an
   additional candidate

   Koster: ok by me

   Kaz: we should ask the other people's opinions

   Koster: any problems, all?
   … one single slot would be better

   Linda: one hour earlier / later would be ok

   Mizushima: slots around this time is ok

   <Song> I also prefer to night time, +/- 1hr works

   Toumura: one-hour later than this slot is ok

   Kaz: what about you, Raul

   Raul: good

   Kaz: I'll ask Daihei about his availability

   Koster: good

    GitHub

   Koster: Kaz proposes to create a GitHub repo
   … should we have wiki also?

   Kaz: would suggest we simply use GitHub only :)

   McCool: easier to use only one MD notation :)

   Koster: ok

   <Linda> +1 for github

   Koster: would make sense

   ACTION: kaz to create a GitHub repo for smart cities IG

    Any other logistics issue?

   (none)

  Quick review of IG Charter

   <kaz> [17]IG Charter

     [17] https://www.w3.org/2024/06/smart-cities/


   Kaz: shares screen with the IG Charter and walks through
   … we may need to add some liaison groups
   … for example spatial data
   … the biggest issue is we are 6 months late in the process
   … the biggest question is how to create a web based platform
   for smart city digital twins

   <kaz> Scope Summary

   <kaz> Identification of stakeholders from the industries,
   countries/cities and communities to involve in the group's
   discussion

   <kaz> Survey on the existing technologies and standards for
   Smart Cities, e.g., possible building blocks of Digital Twin
   Framework and standardized Vocabularies for Smart Cities

   <kaz> Best Practices on what kind of technologies to be applied
   to what kind of Smart Cities applications, e.g., WoT,
   Automotive, Geospatial, VR/AR, Speech and Semantic Web to be
   applied to improved accessibility, visitor guidance and energy
   management

   <kaz> Use cases and requirements for Smart Cities

  Discussion

   McCool: the scope is quite broad, what is the priority

   McCool: we should prioritize other W3C activities
   … also think about gaps, what is gaps

   Kaz: right
   … let's discuss which group to start with first then

   [18]Coordination

     [18] https://www.w3.org/2024/06/smart-cities/#coordination


   Koster: Spatial Data

   McCool: RDF-Star
   … maybe we don't need to handle it ourselves in the end but we
   can look into their work
   … note that different groups tackle different approaches
   … need to understand how linked data is handled by them

   Kaz: maybe we can use the GitHub repo to continue our research
   for those topics

   McCool: we can use GitHub Issues mechanism for that purpose

   Koster: ok
   … we can start with creating GitHub Issues to initiate
   discussion

   Kaz: once I've created a GitHub repo, you can create an Issue,
   McCool :)

   McCool: and invite people to do so as well

    Liaisons

   McCool: organizations working on smart cities in general
   … not necessarily an SDO
   … intersection with the Web would narrow the scope later
   … there are three bubbles here
   … 1. Smart Cities
   … 2. Web
   … 3. Digital Twins

   Koster: right
   … given the success of ETSI around NGSI-LD
   … some of the groups working on smart cities would make sense
   … like a group of Matter

    Existing resources

   McCool: should have resources.md to gather information
   … short summary of the topics

   Koster: yeah

   Kaz: shall I do that?

   McCool: good
   … we should invite people to review it
   … also we can talk about our priority as well

   Koster: like the NGSI-LD guys

   McCool: right
   … how to deal with geolocation information is important

   Kaz: right
   … we can ask Linda for help :)

   Koster: that would be a good place for the discussion

    Deliverables?

   McCool: can talk about our deliverables?

   Koster: good question
* Survey on the existing technologies and standards for Smart Cities
  (Technology Landscape)

* Best Practices on what technologies, e.g., WoT, Automotive, Geospatial
, VR/AR,
  Speech and Semantic Web, to be applied for what kind of Smart Cities a
pplications,
   e.g., improved accessibility, visitor guidance and energy management.

* Use cases and requirements for Smart Cities

   McCool: according to the Charter, the deliverables are as above

   Lieven: meet a requirement or not
   … meet a feature also
   … what about prediction, cross-domain integration, etc.
   … once formulate the requirements, should analyze possible gaps
   with potential standards

   McCool: good point
   … e.g., WoT is organizing user stories
   … analyzing the purpose of the task

   Lieven: would support that

   <McCool> suggest user story approach, As an X I need Y in order
   to Z. Z is purpose, can also be a task (e.g. in order to make
   decisions based on data).

   <McCool> X is stakeholder, Y is feature (e.g. property graphs)

   Kaz: another topics is possible Team Report about Smart Cities
   … I can generate some document based on the Charter
   … and I believe it would be useful for our IG discussion as
   well

  Next meeting

   Koster: next week
   … will update the agenda on the GitHub repo

   [adjourned]

Summary of action items

    1. [19]kaz to create a GitHub repo for smart cities IG


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