- From: Jeanne Spellman <jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 13:08:41 -0400
- To: Susana Pallero <susipalleroarguello@gmail.com>, Bruce Bailey <Bailey@access-board.gov>
- Cc: Andrew Somers <andy@generaltitles.com>, Silver TF <public-silver@w3.org>, Gregg Vanderheiden <gregg@raisingthefloor.org>, 508 <508@access-board.gov>
- Message-ID: <034d6272-4729-b400-4d28-ef0819245eb3@spellmanconsulting.com>
Susana, What about cryptocurrency apps would make it hard to conform? I think the apps should conform, and the data is just the data, but perhaps I am not seeing the bigger picture. jeanne On 7/27/2022 12:55 PM, Susana Pallero wrote: > Hi team, > > I would like your opinion about if data that is updated at a fast pace > (such as cryptocurrency apps) would be part of the Use Cases. > > Thanks, > Regards, > > > El vie, 13 may 2022 a las 15:59, Bruce Bailey > (<Bailey@access-board.gov>) escribió: > > We had a similar issue/concern for “raw data” with the Revised 508 > Standards. Jeanne, can you suggest a wiki or GitHub page where I > might share/memorialize some of that experience? > > The issue comes up in Technical Assistance in that if the business > need is, for example, an mpeg file format – that does not include > captioning. For federal agencies under 508, we point to the > allowance for “fundamental alteration”: > > https://www.access-board.gov/ict/#E202.6 > > As Andy notes, any prepared product would need captioning. > Drawing the line for public facing raw data gets pretty tricky > pretty fast. Is the agency really only posting B-roll stuff? If > it worth sharing, why is not also worth providing some kind of > timed-text file? During the 508 public comment period, there were > conversations about exceptions for “drafts” and “works in > progress” and the Access Board ultimately came to the conclusion > that would have been too much of a loophole. > > Still there are a couple of additional notable caveats related to > the limits of file formats: > > https://www.access-board.gov/ict/#504.1 Authoring Tools, General > > …to the extent that information required for accessibility is > supported by the destination format. > > https://www.access-board.gov/ict/#504.2 Content Creation or Editing > > …to file formats supported by the authoring tool. > > -- > Bruce Bailey (he/him) > Accessibility IT Specialist > U.S. Access Board > 1331 F Street NW, Suite 1000 > Washington, DC 20004-1111 > 202-760-1947 (mobile) > bailey@access-board.gov <mailto:bailey@access-board.gov> > > Thank you for your questions concerning section 508 of the > Rehabilitation Act Amendments of 1998. Section 508 authorizes the > Access Board to provide technical assistance to individuals and > Federal departments and agencies concerning the requirements of > this section. Technical assistance provided in this email is > intended solely as informal guidance; it is neither a > determination of your legal rights or responsibilities, nor a > statement of the official views of the U.S. Access Board or any > other federal agency. Any links to non-federal websites are > provided as a courtesy and do not represent an endorsement of the > linked information, products, or services. > > *From:* Andrew Somers <andy@generaltitles.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, May 12, 2022 6:15 PM > *To:* Gregg Vanderheiden <gregg@raisingthefloor.org> > *Cc:* Silver TF <public-silver@w3.org>; Jeanne Spellman > <jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Conformance] Thoughts/ edits on the Use Cases Document > > Hi Gregg, this is good and examines a useful array of use cases > and exceptions/qualifiers. > > */A potential “raw data” exception:/* > > Something I mentioned in a related thread some months ago, relates > to “original data” for example: > > Camera original .mov, .avi or similar movie files are often > important to be kept as-is and unaltered, for evidentiary purposes > for example. Embedding things like caption data (into the file) > typically results in the file being re-compressed, which results > in data loss. As such, a reasonable exception to the captioning > requirement relates to camera original files which reasonably need > to be left in their unaltered form. > > Caption files can be created as sidecars, of course—and naturally, > a separate version of the video file can be created to make > captions available, but consider a site such as WikiLeaks, where > information that is socially/politically important is held for > dissemination. It is better that a site be able to hold a mass of > such data than to be prohibited from doing so due to a compliance > issue. And when possible, evidentiary data is best held/provided > in an unaltered form. > > Naturally, a commercial news operation should not be able to use > such an exception when it comes to their /prepared/ newscasts, but > even a commercial news operation should be able to provide > raw/unaltered footage as a separately available file, and “raw” > files can not reasonably be required to be altered. > > As such, this points to needed exception language for raw, > original, and archival materials. > > Andy > > * > > Andrew Somers * > > Senior Color Science Researcher > > /PerceptEx Perception Research Project/ > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.myndex.com%2Fperceptex%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cbailey%40access-board.gov%7C24429574ac5d463f070508da34652ca7%7Cfc6093f5e55e4f93b2cf26d0822201c9%7C0%7C1%7C637879906410328795%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=wlSXdOP6u%2Fo9%2FSjFGaBqCy%2BL1S5dKuJS6ZCz98g8lyA%3D&reserved=0> > > > > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.myndex.com%2Fperceptex%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cbailey%40access-board.gov%7C24429574ac5d463f070508da34652ca7%7Cfc6093f5e55e4f93b2cf26d0822201c9%7C0%7C1%7C637879906410328795%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=wlSXdOP6u%2Fo9%2FSjFGaBqCy%2BL1S5dKuJS6ZCz98g8lyA%3D&reserved=0> > > > > On May 12, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Gregg Vanderheiden > <gregg@raisingthefloor.org <mailto:gregg@raisingthefloor.org>> > wrote: > > This is a work in progress — > > I’m posting it for review and feedback as I go > > <Use Cases for WCAG 3.0 Conformance.docx> > > gregg > > ——————————— > Professor, University of Maryland, College Park > Founder and Director Emeritus , Trace R&D Center, UMD > > Co-Founder Raising the Floor. http://raisingthefloor.org > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fraisingthefloor.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cbailey%40access-board.gov%7C24429574ac5d463f070508da34652ca7%7Cfc6093f5e55e4f93b2cf26d0822201c9%7C0%7C1%7C637879906410328795%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=d8xWC1QMPOAjUXxeWOPS1J9dQGRVeQr9ZamSWBF%2FDbs%3D&reserved=0> > The Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure (GPII) > http://GPII.net > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgpii.net%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cbailey%40access-board.gov%7C24429574ac5d463f070508da34652ca7%7Cfc6093f5e55e4f93b2cf26d0822201c9%7C0%7C1%7C637879906410328795%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Pub5KexK8zMA7BTH%2Bds5qMMEhBy2kUPTlF%2B%2FepUu6%2Bo%3D&reserved=0> > The Morphic project https://morphic.org > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmorphic.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cbailey%40access-board.gov%7C24429574ac5d463f070508da34652ca7%7Cfc6093f5e55e4f93b2cf26d0822201c9%7C0%7C1%7C637879906410328795%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=5ZWWF56xiDN%2B%2BCRw3N5t5NVh08ht0z7t38d6nuKV1yY%3D&reserved=0> >
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