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Re: Process for WCAG 3.0 document updates

From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gregg@vanderheiden.us>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 08:50:48 -0400
Message-Id: <128252CB-B5DB-41E5-8CCC-EFB6410D236B@vanderheiden.us>
Cc: "w3c-waI-gl@w3. org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, Silver TF <public-silver@w3.org>
To: Rachael Bradley-Montgomery <rmontgomery@loc.gov>
RE: Levels of Maturity 

I think the idea of level of maturity labels is a great idea

There are a lot of good bits to it 

But I would change one bit - which I think is critical to process
Once something is in — it is very hard to get it back out
Getting something back out - can use up a LOT of time and discussion getting it back out - slowing the group way down and creating bad feelings.
If a subgroup can put things in without WG review (for expediency) it is likely to slow down the process down much more later (much more than any time saved up front) - and again - create bad feelings.  
The only reason to include something early - is to get input on it because there is a question or sticking point where input is sought. 
That nothing go into any draft without WG consensus 
The WG would be less strict about what goes in at lower levels - allowing things that it thinks might be added (there is some evidence that it might) even if wording is not worked out. 
Language attached to such items would be commensurate with belief that they can make it or the concerns that need to be addressed.      And they should include a request for comment or input to address those. 
If the subgroup cannot convince the working group to include something, even the lower level, it shouldn’t be there yet.   
The editor’s, working, and public docs are all communication instruments of the working group - not any subgroup - so the working group should know and determine what is in its communications. 

I had a second thought at the meeting but cannot recall it now.  So I will pass this one on. 

Otherwise I think the basic concept — labeling things with level of Maturity — is a good one. 



Professor, University of Maryland, College Park
Director , Trace R&D Center, UMD

> On Oct 12, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Bradley-Montgomery, Rachael <rmontgomery@loc.gov> wrote:
> Hello,
> I am adding in the Silver list.  When commenting on this proposal, please respond all this email.
> Kind regards,
> Rachael
> From: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com <mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com>>
> Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 11:51 AM
> To: "WCAG list (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>)" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>>
> Subject: Process for WCAG 3.0 document updates
> Resent-From: <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org <mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>>
> Resent-Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 11:50 AM
> Hi everyone,
> Regarding the presentation I gave on our process & WCAG 3.0 document, that presentation is here:
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1MRuvJ6BcLCPfupvvrwL6GU-KsyWR76Tb/edit#slide=id.p1 <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fpresentation%2Fd%2F1MRuvJ6BcLCPfupvvrwL6GU-KsyWR76Tb%2Fedit%23slide%3Did.p1&data=04%7C01%7Cacampbell%40nomensa.com%7C5d9e891b972e4ba6cb4308d98d2101ba%7Cebea4ad6fbbf43bd8449c56e26692c35%7C0%7C0%7C637695995644406401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=M93cH8vmMLNgQ1FZ9zzFlYbvUiT8IXON%2F2xKyN7nMgM%3D&reserved=0>
> The main point of the proposal is to change the expectation that the entire document has consensus and is ‘recommendation ready’.
> You could consider the entire current Working Draft (WD) to be ‘exploratory’, but we have internal (and probably external) confusion about the intended maturity level of the document.
> The proposal is to apply labels to each section of the documents which indicate the level of maturity, and have a level of review that each section needs to get to for that level.
> The official Working Draft would have the more mature content, the Editors Draft would include everything being worked on. Both would have the labels.
> Meeting time is rather precious at the moment, we wanted to put this proposal in front of everyone, get some feedback (here) for broader points, and then have a survey/discussion.
> Kind regards,
> -Alastair
> -- 
> @alastc / www.nomensa.com <http://www.nomensa.com/>

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