Re: [External] CFC - WCAG 3.0 Heartbeat publication

Hi Chuck,

+1 Thank you for updating the draft.

Kind regards,
Laura

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 1:47 PM Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> wrote:

> Chuck, yes, if the new guideline isn’t included then it definitely changes
> my response to +1.
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> *From: *Chuck Adams <charles.adams@oracle.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 11:33 AM
> *To: *Chuck Adams <charles.adams@oracle.com>, Andrew Kirkpatrick <
> akirkpat@adobe.com>, Silver TF <public-silver@w3.org>, WCAG <
> w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Subject: *RE: [External] CFC - WCAG 3.0 Heartbeat publication
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> To confirm, this is the difference between the editors draft and the stage
> working draft.  Your concerns are correct and we are addressing them in the
> stage working draft.
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> We are pulling the new guideline from the stage working draft, and we are
> also fixing some issues with links in the stage working draft.
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> Given that the stage working draft will have the new guideline removed,
> will that satisfy your concerns, and will you be able to +1 this CFC Andrew?
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> Thanks,
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> Chuck
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> *From:* Chuck Adams <charles.adams@oracle.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 2, 2021 9:07 AM
> *To:* Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>; Silver TF <
> public-silver@w3.org>; WCAG list (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org) <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Subject:* RE: [External] CFC - WCAG 3.0 Heartbeat publication
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> Noted Andrew,
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> Regarding the links and content, we will review and update as necessary.
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> Regarding yesterday’s “decisions”.  While there was no resolution, the new
> error prevention guideline will not be added to this heartbeat, as there
> was no consensus to add it.
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> Regards,
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> Chuck
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> *From:* Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:57 AM
> *To:* Chuck Adams <charles.adams@oracle.com>; Silver TF <
> public-silver@w3.org>; WCAG list (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org) <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [External] CFC - WCAG 3.0 Heartbeat publication
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> Chuck, the second bullet describes “editorial updates” but included in
> that link is a new guideline, which is not editorial.
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> Can you or someone clarify what was actually decided on the call yesterday
> and what changes have been made to the spec as a result? I thought that we
> might see something about the scoring for this section being under
> development as a few of us were asked if that would address our concerns
> with adding this guideline in the normative document at this point, but
> don’t see that anywhere.
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> Right now it appears that the guideline is just added, so I’ll wait to
> hear what response there is to this questions, but until then I’ll leave a
> my temporary response to this CFC:
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> -1
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> Thanks,
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> AWK
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> Andrew Kirkpatrick
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> Director, Accessibility
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> Adobe
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> *From: *Chuck Adams <charles.adams@oracle.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 2:17 PM
> *To: *Silver TF <public-silver@w3.org>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Subject: *[External] CFC - WCAG 3.0 Heartbeat publication
> *Resent-From: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Resent-Date: *Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 2:16 PM
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> Call For Consensus — ends Friday June 4, midnight UTC.
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> The Working Group has discussed the publication of the first WCAG 3.0
> Heartbeat, which can be found in full here:  W3C Accessibility Guidelines
> (WCAG) 3.0
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/w3c.github.io/silver/guidelines/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!OOJolmTcctbeyo-Ga9ynuYFD_r6UeVtSRE9rT1UxbO3o3XsUHqu3pV_y6NiQFUo9pQ$>
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> The changes for the first Heartbeat publication are:
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>    - Acknowledgements section
>    https://w3c.github.io/silver/guidelines/#acknowledgements
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/w3c.github.io/silver/guidelines/*acknowledgements__;Iw!!GqivPVa7Brio!OOJolmTcctbeyo-Ga9ynuYFD_r6UeVtSRE9rT1UxbO3o3XsUHqu3pV_y6Njkk8lckg$>
>    (Reviewed/discussed:
>    https://www.w3.org/2021/05/11-ag-minutes.html#item04
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.w3.org/2021/05/11-ag-minutes.html*item04__;Iw!!GqivPVa7Brio!K8z0bkIH96h4vvm4L9CQ6Ga3B05zT7KKZn5FfcyreiArzveoX4DLARtwcCbbKZ5Kyw$>
>    )
>    - Editorial updates
>    https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2Fwcag-3.0%2F&doc2=https%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Fsilver%2Fguidelines%2F
>    <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https*3A*2F*2Fwww.w3.org*2FTR*2Fwcag-3.0*2F&doc2=https*3A*2F*2Fw3c.github.io*2Fsilver*2Fguidelines*2F__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!GqivPVa7Brio!K8z0bkIH96h4vvm4L9CQ6Ga3B05zT7KKZn5FfcyreiArzveoX4DLARtwcCZjwpWbiQ$>
>    Most of the changes remove content that went into the explainer that
>    is NOT part of this heartbeat publication. We will do a more thorough
>    review of the document before publishing the explainer as a separate TR
>    note.
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> Kind regards,
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> Charles Adams
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