Re: [External] CFC - WCAG 3.0 Heartbeat publication

Chuck, yes, if the new guideline isn’t included then it definitely changes my response to +1.

Thanks,
AWK

Andrew Kirkpatrick
Director, Accessibility
Adobe

akirkpat@adobe.com
http://twitter.com/awkawk


From: Chuck Adams <charles.adams@oracle.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 at 11:33 AM
To: Chuck Adams <charles.adams@oracle.com>, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, Silver TF <public-silver@w3.org>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: RE: [External] CFC - WCAG 3.0 Heartbeat publication

To confirm, this is the difference between the editors draft and the stage working draft.  Your concerns are correct and we are addressing them in the stage working draft.

We are pulling the new guideline from the stage working draft, and we are also fixing some issues with links in the stage working draft.

Given that the stage working draft will have the new guideline removed, will that satisfy your concerns, and will you be able to +1 this CFC Andrew?

Thanks,
Chuck

From: Chuck Adams <charles.adams@oracle.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 9:07 AM
To: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>; Silver TF <public-silver@w3.org>; WCAG list (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org) <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: RE: [External] CFC - WCAG 3.0 Heartbeat publication

Noted Andrew,

Regarding the links and content, we will review and update as necessary.

Regarding yesterday’s “decisions”.  While there was no resolution, the new error prevention guideline will not be added to this heartbeat, as there was no consensus to add it.

Regards,
Chuck

From: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:57 AM
To: Chuck Adams <charles.adams@oracle.com<mailto:charles.adams@oracle.com>>; Silver TF <public-silver@w3.org<mailto:public-silver@w3.org>>; WCAG list (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>) <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: [External] CFC - WCAG 3.0 Heartbeat publication

Chuck, the second bullet describes “editorial updates” but included in that link is a new guideline, which is not editorial.

Can you or someone clarify what was actually decided on the call yesterday and what changes have been made to the spec as a result? I thought that we might see something about the scoring for this section being under development as a few of us were asked if that would address our concerns with adding this guideline in the normative document at this point, but don’t see that anywhere.

Right now it appears that the guideline is just added, so I’ll wait to hear what response there is to this questions, but until then I’ll leave a my temporary response to this CFC:

-1

Thanks,
AWK

Andrew Kirkpatrick
Director, Accessibility
Adobe

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From: Chuck Adams <charles.adams@oracle.com<mailto:charles.adams@oracle.com>>
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 2:17 PM
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Subject: [External] CFC - WCAG 3.0 Heartbeat publication
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Resent-Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 2:16 PM


Call For Consensus — ends Friday June 4, midnight UTC.



The Working Group has discussed the publication of the first WCAG 3.0 Heartbeat, which can be found in full here:  W3C Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 3.0<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/w3c.github.io/silver/guidelines/__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!OOJolmTcctbeyo-Ga9ynuYFD_r6UeVtSRE9rT1UxbO3o3XsUHqu3pV_y6NiQFUo9pQ$>



The changes for the first Heartbeat publication are:

  *   Acknowledgements section https://w3c.github.io/silver/guidelines/#acknowledgements<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/w3c.github.io/silver/guidelines/*acknowledgements__;Iw!!GqivPVa7Brio!OOJolmTcctbeyo-Ga9ynuYFD_r6UeVtSRE9rT1UxbO3o3XsUHqu3pV_y6Njkk8lckg$>
(Reviewed/discussed: https://www.w3.org/2021/05/11-ag-minutes.html#item04<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.w3.org/2021/05/11-ag-minutes.html*item04__;Iw!!GqivPVa7Brio!K8z0bkIH96h4vvm4L9CQ6Ga3B05zT7KKZn5FfcyreiArzveoX4DLARtwcCbbKZ5Kyw$>)
  *   Editorial updates https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2Fwcag-3.0%2F&doc2=https%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Fsilver%2Fguidelines%2F<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https*3A*2F*2Fwww.w3.org*2FTR*2Fwcag-3.0*2F&doc2=https*3A*2F*2Fw3c.github.io*2Fsilver*2Fguidelines*2F__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!GqivPVa7Brio!K8z0bkIH96h4vvm4L9CQ6Ga3B05zT7KKZn5FfcyreiArzveoX4DLARtwcCZjwpWbiQ$>
Most of the changes remove content that went into the explainer that is NOT part of this heartbeat publication. We will do a more thorough review of the document before publishing the explainer as a separate TR note.

Kind regards,
Charles Adams