RE: Update on XR SubGroup - Meetings and Developing User Needs

Hi Charles,

Great question – thanks for picking that up! Currently I had just taken the Functional Needs categories from EN301549 with the view that these can be used to begin to let people think about the different types of challenges that we are going to be facing (i.e. using them as a broadening/explorative list of items). However, I am also keen to point out this is really going to be a place holder until we have something more concrete that we can plug in – this is such an iterative process with so many moving parts that things are bound to change and I said to Jeanne that our best approach is going to be “fail fast, fail often”.

In the short term if you could pass on a (beta?) list of functional needs that you have I can get the list that we are using swapped over until the FN subgroup has something closer to a finished version that we can use. Additionally, if you have any big changes to the list as times goes on, please feel free to send these over and we can get them included in the list – even if we are moving on in the process of draft requirement creation and don’t need them right now…they will be very useful in the future. I’m keen to build a lean process that shows how we can generate the full guideline list in the future so getting all these things done now will be extremely helpful.

Thanks again – really great point and one worth pointing out 😊

Kind Regards

Mike


From: Charles Hall <hallmediamobile@gmail.com>
Sent: 04 June 2020 18:44
To: Michael Crabb (Staff) <m.z.crabb@dundee.ac.uk>
Cc: public-silver@w3.org
Subject: Re: Update on XR SubGroup - Meetings and Developing User Needs

Hi Mike,

Thank you for compiling this. Apologies if I missed a meeting. It was not clear that a recurring meeting had been set.

I am not familiar with using GitHub other than adding a comment.

RE: 2.a.i & 2.a.ii — specifically, “…and would encourage others to add to this list so that we have a wide array of needs to consider”:

The Functional Needs Subgroup is currently aggregating and compiling and extending a list of needs beyond the scope of the EN 301 549 Functional Performance Statements (Functional Needs – Expanding<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eJkgXqbh7dx3uD6XAy8XAANmwfbbVZ5GKb_gbsUdkVs/edit?usp=sharing>). This is intended to get consensus from many W3C groups contributing to and relying on this information.
It combines at least the following W3C sources: MAUR; XAUR; ARIA-AT; FAST; and COGA Functions. It also notes and considers at least the following external resources: EN 301 549 Functional Performance Statements; CVAA (47 CFR §14.21 - Performance Objectives); ISO 9241-171:2008 Ergonomics of human-system interaction (Part 171: Guidance on software accessibility); and IMS Global Learning Consortium – Accessibility Background (§2.1 Disabilities, Functional Limitations, and Accessibility Tips).
How should the output of this work be captured in the list of User Needs for this subgroup?

Charles Hall

Invited Expert, W3C AGWG & Silver TF
Chair, W3C IDIW CG


On Jun 4, 2020, at 9:21 AM, Michael Crabb (Staff) <m.z.crabb@dundee.ac.uk<mailto:m.z.crabb@dundee.ac.uk>> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I hope you are all keeping well. I wanted to give a brief update on the XR Silver SubGroup and how we’re planning on sharing information and collaborating with others during the development of the sample guideline that we are creating. This email has a lot of information in it so I’ve tried my best to signpost relevant parts.


  1.  Meetings

     *   Meeting Time - Meetings for the XR Subgroup take place on Mondays from 09:00-10:00 EST (14:00-15:00 BST) and information on joining this is available athttps://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_silver-xr

     *   Meeting Summaries - Brief summaries of meetings are available on the wiki at the following link: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/XR_Subgroup_-_Meeting_Summary


  1.  Initial Guideline Development – Our initial guideline for the XR Subgroup is going to look at the use of captioning / audio descriptions inside of an XR environment. We will be following the following process for creating this: User Needs -> Functional Outcomes -> Tests -> Test Passing Methods -> Supporting Documentation -> Guideline Creation

     *   Development of User Needs - We will be using the W3C Silver Github Repo as the main source for gathering user needs and sorting these. The model for this is as follows:
                                                               i.      User Needs are created as Issues inside of the repository. A sample one is here: https://github.com/w3c/silver/issues/112. Issues should be labelled as XR and User Need. A template for creating these with all of the required information will be added to GitHub shortly. We acknowledge that all user needs are important and would encourage others to add to this list so that we have a wide array of needs to consider for future guideline development.
                                                             ii.      User Needs Relevance will be discussed in upcoming meetings to see how they may fit with our initial guideline. Even if it isn’t used in this iteration – it will more than likely be used in the future. A project board has been created and is viewable here to show progress with this:https://github.com/w3c/silver/projects/2


     *   Functional Outcomes and Future Work – We will hopefully be moving onto looking at functional outcomes towards the end of June, I will send out more information when we start this but reporting/management of this is more than likely to be very close to the above

If anyone has any questions / comments / concerns on the above then please get in touch. I know that GitHub sometimes isn’t the easiest piece of software to use so people wish to contribute outside of this, please get in touch via email.

Kind Regards

Mike


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