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Re: the inportents of simplification

From: Hall, Charles (DET-MRM) <Charles.Hall@mrm-mccann.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 13:30:20 +0000
To: "lucy@accessaces.com" <lucy@accessaces.com>, Silver Task Force <public-silver@w3.org>
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Hi Lucy,

Thank you for sharing this experience. I completely agree with your main point – as does all of the research conducted in 2017 and 2018. However, it brings up an important point on language conventions of the document itself. We cannot use a document convention of “note” when the document also describes an element, attribute, value or concept of “note”.

The simple description you may have been looking for is “A section whose content is parenthetic or ancillary to the main content of the resource.” There seems to be no additional description or example usage for this role.

The W3C Process 2020 (continuous development) is one potential option for Silver where document conventions like this could be iterated on – I believe after Recommendation status – through an open process. I don’t believe we have solved for the governance and change management of guidelines yet.

Thanks,

Charles Hall // Senior UX Architect

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From: lucia greco <lucy@accessaces.com>
Reply-To: "lucy@accessaces.com" <lucy@accessaces.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 4:02 PM
To: Silver Task Force <public-silver@w3.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] the inportents of simplification
Resent-From: Silver Task Force <public-silver@w3.org>
Resent-Date: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 4:02 PM

hello every one:
 i just had a experience that i thought i should share here as an example of how we need to make  what we produce much more effective and simple.

 i was sent a link to the aria 1.1 spec specifically the information on the role of note. well i gave up trying to read that page after 10 minuts of reading overly   complex text that talked about translation and normative information. then i thought lets look through the heddings and  found 4 h4 called note and i stopped counting after 5 h5 called note. and frankly i still don't have any idea what the  document said about the  role of note this stuff is to hard to read and we need to make it more  discoverable for every one.  what was the   authors thinking when they made so many headers whith the same text and why does a page need so much background that you can't find the meat of the thing. here is the link i was sent for  reference..
 sorry i have not been as active here as i should but i felt this needed to be said here as its key to what i think our work had as its goal.
lucy

https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#note<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www..w3.org_TR_wai-2Daria-2D1.1_-23note&d=DwMFaQ&c=Ftw_YSVcGmqQBvrGwAZugGylNRkk-uER0-5bY94tjsc&r=FbsK8fvOGBHiAasJukQr6i2dv-WpJzmR-w48cl75l3c&m=laICy-sfIok4caNIMmwtl5v03IF942-KgSybrC08Mxo&s=4ZBcoGA2yfFVRlMwmsy6A4eO6kUQGHFsEqEWoWbxC5Q&e=>
lucia Greco
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