- From: Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>
- Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 13:35:46 +0200
- To: "Abma, J.D. (Jake)" <Jake.Abma@ing.com>, "public-silver@w3.org" <public-silver@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <6d66f813-b649-17d5-a3b9-2a5e4c6e1806@testkreis.de>
Jake, I agree withj sepatrate layers, "basic" and "extra on top" and critical issues However (and I may be repeating myself) a result of 60%, in our old scoring scheme, would describe REALLY bad sites. This is because a good number of SCs rarely see fails (think of 1.3.3. Sensory Characteristics, 1.3.4 Orientation, 1.4.5 Images of Text, 2.3.1 Three flashes, 2.4.5 Multiple ways, 2.5.4 Motion Activation, 3.1.1 Language of Page, 3.2.1 On Focus, 3.2.2 On Input). So if bottom line of 60% means that a whooping 40% of SCs can have defects (the queston question is of cause, *how* bad), that baseline would allow for pretty dismal stuff. So I fear this would act as a disincentive for those who are happy to just scrape through with minimal conformance, and really lower the bar established in WCAG 2.X. I realise the structure of Silver will be different but the testable issues will be largely similar, in whatever arrangement nameing or granularity. Am 18.10.2019 um 13:09 schrieb Abma, J.D. (Jake): > > Think we need some leeway here and there, but keep it very simple, like: > > BASICS: > > * Seems like a simple / plain, 100 point with 60% baseline system, > might do the trick to keep it clean. > > EXTRA ON TOP: > > * For the AAA like-ish (best practices) you could add bonus points > to it (clear but limited set!) > * And have a sort of severe/ critical issues / Non-Interference > musts (subtract points?! clear but limited set!) > > Result like: > > * Basic score: 73% > * Bonus points: 20/100 (namely the following methods: ... and ...) > * Critical issues: NONE > > Cheers! > Jake > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2019 1:54 PM > *To:* public-silver@w3.org <public-silver@w3.org> > *Subject:* Re: What if Silver didn't have levels? > One problem I see is that 60% (even 75%) sounds like there would already > be MANY possibly grave accessibility issues -- when you add AAA criteria > and best practices to such a site, these won't go away. I would imagine > some sort of minimum conformance baseline should be set independent of > extra things - aspects now at AAA - and I find it dubious that you would > be able to improve one overallscore by these (possibly non-essential) > additions. > > Am 16.10.2019 um 13:10 schrieb Alastair Campbell: > > If the methods that are currently at WCAG 2.1 AA got you to 60% (for > > example), you’d need to do things at the AAA level & best practices to > > score higher. > > -- > Detlev Fischer > Testkreis > Werderstr. 34, 20144 Hamburg > > Mobil +49 (0)157 57 57 57 45 > > http://www.testkreis.de > Beratung, Tests und Schulungen für barrierefreie Websites > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ATTENTION: > The information in this e-mail is confidential and only meant for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, don't use or disclose it in any way. Please let the sender know and delete the message immediately. > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- Detlev Fischer Testkreis Werderstr. 34, 20144 Hamburg Mobil +49 (0)157 57 57 57 45 http://www.testkreis.de Beratung, Tests und Schulungen für barrierefreie Websites
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