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Re: Conformance and method 'levels'

From: Hall, Charles (DET-MRM) <Charles.Hall@mrm-mccann.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 17:52:17 +0000
To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, Silver Task Force <public-silver@w3.org>
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I understand the logical parallel.

However, my understanding (perhaps influenced by my own intent) of the point system is not directly proportional to the number of features (supported by methods) added or by the difficulty associated with adding them, but instead based on meeting functional needs. In this example, transcription, captioning and audio description (recorded) may all be implemented but still only have sufficient points to earn silver. While addressing the content itself to be more understandable by people with cognitive issues or intersectional needs would be required for sufficient points to earn gold. The difference being people and not methods.

Am I alone in this view?

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From: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
Date: Friday, June 21, 2019 at 12:01 PM
To: Silver Task Force <public-silver@w3.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Conformance and method 'levels'
Resent-From: Silver Task Force <public-silver@w3.org>
Resent-Date: Friday, June 21, 2019 at 12:01 PM

Hi everyone,

I think this is a useful thread to be aware of when thinking about conformance and how different methods might be set at different levels:

It is about multimedia access, so the 1.2.x section in WCAG 2.x. You might think that it is fairly straightforward as the solutions are fairly cut & dried (captions, transcripts, AD etc.)

However, the tricky bit is at what level you require different solutions.

If you had a guideline such as “A user does not need to see in order to understand visual multimedia content”, then Patrick’s levelling in one of the comments<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_w3c_wcag_issues_782-23issuecomment-2D504038948&d=DwMGaQ&c=Ftw_YSVcGmqQBvrGwAZugGylNRkk-uER0-5bY94tjsc&r=FbsK8fvOGBHiAasJukQr6i2dv-WpJzmR-w48cl75l3c&m=qRlBlL2XbaOAr9ZQ1gk036BFzRHfv3et7ZuRCfnYttk&s=eQu0fdZeTflKCDpdR_3mguGA09aq52UmWnQTBdPRhjE&e=> makes sense:

  *   Bronze: EITHER provide AD or transcript
  *   Silver: provide AD and transcript
  *   Gold: Provide live transcript or live AD.

I raise this as if you read the thread, you’ll see how the levels impacted the drafting of the guidelines, and I think we’ll have a similar (or more complex?) dynamic for the scoring in Silver, and how methods are drafted.

Kind regards,



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