- From: Jeanne Spellman <jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com>
- Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 10:54:31 -0400
- To: public-silver@w3.org
- Message-ID: <497152ba-c4a3-96aa-c2dc-aefc49ea74bb@spellmanconsulting.com>
This is a very interesting idea that I do think we need to discuss. When I was first thinking about Silver two years ago, I had a thought that we could do automated testing for a basic level of accessibility. As we went through all the research and started forming the ideas and proposals, I had forgotten about it. I am open to looking at this in more detail. My concern would be the amount of disability needs that could be included in reduced-cost testing, particularly the non-physical needs, like cognitive disabilities. I know there is new research and testing in the last couple years that could be a viable solution. I would like to schedule this discussion so we could have a number of people involved who care about this issue, and devote an entire meeting (or more) to it. On 8/28/2018 6:19 AM, Wilco Fiers wrote: > Hey all, > > Firstly, all hats off. Sharing a personal view here. I wanted to reach > out about a thing that I've been concerned with regarding Silver. With > WCAG 2.1 I saw some discussions about the increased cost of testing > compared to WCAG 2.0. Thinking about the adoption of WCAG 2.0 from > WCAG 1.0, there too I saw that the amount of work it took to do > accessibility testing had increased quite significantly. > > I'm concerned that (as far as I can tell) there hasn't yet been a > discussion about costs of testing with Silver. I know its still early > days, but I think that we should have that discussion, and decide what > kind of target we'd like to hit for Silver. There are all these > fantastic ideas floating around, about score cards, usability testing, > expanding to include non-web technologies. Lots of great stuff, but we > have to be aware that all of these things are going to have a price tag. > > I would very much like for the Silver group to decide how much they > think the cost of doing accessibility testing is allowed to increase. > Is it okay for the costs of testing to double between WCAG 2.0 and > Silver like they did from WCAG 1.0 to 2.0? Is it allowed to increase > at all? Should Silver be designed to decrease costs instead? > > Making Silver easier to use, lowering the barrier to entry, those are > fantastic goals. But those things really don't matter if someone can't > get the budget to do accessibility testing. And without testing, you > can't maintain an accessible site. I don't think it's unreasonable to > think that if Silver decreases the cost of accessibility testing, it > could get wider adoption than WCAG 2 did. Where is if the opposite > happens, if testing for Silver is far more expansive than it is for > WCAG 2, that organisations might just stick with WCAG 2 for a long > time to come. > > Personally, I'm of the opinion that WCAG 2 is already too expansive. > When I was still testing WCAG 1, I'd regularly test websites of > smaller organisations. Those organisations stopped coming when the > costs went up for WCAG 2. I think a good target for Silver would be > that at the bronze level, costs for testing are about half what they > are for WCAG 2.0 Level AA. I believe that that would make it > affordable again for small businesses, which I think should be a goal > for Silver. > > Either way, Silver needs to be designed with an eye on testing costs, > and it would help if we had some goals defined for it. > > -- > *Wilco Fiers* > Senior Accessibility Engineer - Co-facilitator WCAG-ACT - Chair Auto-WCAG
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