Re: Question on SHACL resources

On 2021-11-16 1:18 pm, Sommer, Ashley (L&W, Dutton Park) wrote:
> Hi Holger and everyone else,
>
> > A general Slack or Gitter channel would be cool if anyone here is 
> willing to set this up?
> > In general, yes we do see a lot of uptake of SHACL too, but much more 
> "community" should arise. We at TopQuadrant can only do so much alone...
>
> As the developer and maintainer of PySHACL, I'd like to help out to 
> create more community around SHACL, and can help to set up and 
> administer a Slack or Gitter account.
>
> Several other opensource and software development communities I'm 
> involved with have moved away from Slack and Gitter to usingDiscord 
> <https://discord.com/> for community engagement.

Yes, I wasn't sure which flavour is en vogue right now, as this seems to 
change quite a bit :)

> It might be a "flavour of the month" kind of situation, however Slack 
> requires a new sign up for every group you join, and Gitter tends to 
> be tied to a particular GitHub repository.
> Happy to put it to vote, let those interested decide which platform 
> they'd prefer.

I guess once someone starts such an effort, others will join so my 
suggestion is you just pick one and inform us here. I will do what I can 
to promote such a channel. FWIW we do use Slack for work, so that would 
be an easy thing for me to monitor or join.


Thanks
Holger



>
> Ashley Sommer
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Holger Knublauch <holger@topquadrant.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 16 November 2021 1:05 PM
> *To:* public-shacl@w3.org <public-shacl@w3.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Question on SHACL resources
>
> On 2021-11-13 9:10 pm, Sasaki, Felix wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I see more and more industry interest in SHACL. To foster adoption, I 
>> am wondering where to find resources, e.g.:
>>
>>   * SHACL shapes for widely used standard vocabularies e.g. mentioned
>>     at https://lov.linkeddata.es/dataset/lov
>>     <https://lov.linkeddata.es/dataset/lov>
>>
> Which of those would you like to see covered in particular?
>
> I notice that the Dublin Core vocabs are rather vague and consist 
> mostly of properties only, making them hard to capture as SHACL. We do 
> have a reasonably complete coverage of SKOS and SKOS-XL in our product 
> workspace, and many other SHACL ontologies in production. But as most 
> users of this technology, these versions are not published on regular 
> "Linked Data" URLs. In our practice as vendor we are aware of many 
> projects that use SHACL, yet they typically remain in private 
> ontologies, for dedicated enterprise-specific tasks.
>
> A notable exception is https://datashapes.org/schema 
> <https://datashapes.org/schema> which is a SHACL copy of schema.org
>
> It would be a great initiative to start pulling such vocabularies 
> together into a consistent publicly maintained repo, but such a 
> project would need a dedicated leader. We have converters from 
> OWL/RDFS to SHACL that may help quickly populate such a repo.
>
>>  *
>>
>>
>>   * SHACL use cases with example shapes (the SHACL spec has a lot of
>>     examples, but these are grouped by feature – it is sometimes hard
>>     to find the right feature for a given need)
>>
> There is space for a SHACL book and more tutorials, for sure. We did 
> publish some at https://www.topquadrant.com/technology/shacl/ 
> <https://www.topquadrant.com/technology/shacl/>
>>
>>  *
>>
>>
>>   * Various types of tooling, esp. editors
>>
> TopBraid EDG covers SHACL, but that's a commercial tool.
>>
>>  *
>>
>>
>> This list is very helpful to ask technical questions about SHACL. 
>> Where should I go to find “the community” that could help to gather 
>> (and extend) information as above?
>>
> This mailing list here is quite OK I think. As usual, much discussion 
> also happens on other channels such as Twitter. A general Slack or 
> Gitter channel would be cool if anyone here is willing to set this up?
>
> In general, yes we do see a lot of uptake of SHACL too, but much more 
> "community" should arise. We at TopQuadrant can only do so much alone...
>
> Holger
>
>
>> Thanks a lot for any pointers in advance,
>>
>> Felix
>>