Re: San Antonio Summary & Agenda for Tue Jan 27 HL7 ITS / W3C HCLS teleconference: FHIR Ontology Requirements

You can see the draft implementation guide in the FHIR specification.  Just
click on "Implementation guides" from the implementation space.

The semantics of a data element, meaning of a data element and associated
value domains (value sets, fixed lengths, data types, etc.) are all defined
within FHIR now.  And anything additional 11179 has can be defined using
extensions.  I'm opposed to defining anything in RDF that is outside the
base FHIR structure because that means information present in RDF can't be
shared in JSON or XML.


Lloyd

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On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Jiang, Guoqian, M.D., Ph.D. <
Jiang.Guoqian@mayo.edu> wrote:

>
>   >>>The StructuredDataCapture project is defining a profile with
> additional extensions to increase 11179 alignment.
> I would be interested in looking at how this project is going on.
>
>  >>>We shouldn't plan to do anything in the RDF representation that isn't
> fully defined in the other representations, so I don't know that there's a
> need for a separate project at all - at least not from an RDF perspective.
>  I am not sure that I would agree this. We would like to leverage ISO
> 11179 to explicitly represent the semantics around a data element, the
> meaning of a data elements and associated value domains (or value set
> bindings). We have a real-world use case that requires the data element
> services based on the explicit semantics.
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  -Guoqian
>
>
>
>   From: Lloyd McKenzie <lloyd@lmckenzie.com>
> Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 1:10 PM
> To: David Booth <david@dbooth.org>
> Cc: "Jiang, Guoqian, M.D., Ph.D." <jiang.guoqian@mayo.edu>, "
> public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org" <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>, "
> its@lists.hl7.org" <its@lists.hl7.org>, Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org>,
> "Solbrig, Harold R." <Solbrig.Harold@mayo.edu>
> Subject: Re: San Antonio Summary & Agenda for Tue Jan 27 HL7 ITS / W3C
> HCLS teleconference: FHIR Ontology Requirements
>
>   I don't really understand what this means.  Value set binding is fully
> defined in FHIR already (in the Profile, DataElement an Questionnaire
> resources).  How that gets represented when we convert Profile to OWL is
> very much in-scope.  Similarly, Profile, DataElement and Questionnaire are
> all mechanisms that define data elements in FHIR.  Representing those in
> RDF is also in-scope.  DataElement is already informed by ISO 11179.  The
> StructuredDataCapture project is defining a profile with additional
> extensions to increase 11179 alignment.  We shouldn't plan to do anything
> in the RDF representation that isn't fully defined in the other
> representations, so I don't know that there's a need for a separate project
> at all - at least not from an RDF perspective.
>
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>
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> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:23 PM, David Booth <david@dbooth.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Guoqian,
>>
>> On 01/27/2015 12:35 PM, Jiang, Guoqian, M.D., Ph.D. wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, David,
>>>
>>> In the conference call this morning, we agreed to make FHIR common model
>>> for data element management and value set binding as a separate project
>>> outside FHIR Ontology project. It is a good timing as we at Mayo are
>>> actively working on producing a Semantic Web-based metadata repository
>>> informed by ISO 11179 for FHIR. Can we discuss the project in the
>>> following meetings and see whether the community would be interested in
>>> working on the requirements and use cases for the project?
>>>
>>
>> Sure, I'll add it to the upcoming agenda.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> David Booth
>>
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