Re: Out of Cycle HL7 RIMBAA meeting Nov 20th Kaiser Pleasanton Technology Campus

I can say something at will clarify a lot.

I realize that people who really know how OWL and open world works, can do 
a lot more then what I am proposing.  But what I see being done by 
"clinical modelers" who think entirely in OO terms is really dangerous. So 
there must be a concept of "how safe" it is to let inexperienced OO 
modelers add Ontology to clinical models.  As a fist state, limiting 
SNOMED hierarchies to Clinical Findings, Procedures and Observables, and 
further limiting the use in the OO models to the "what" almost guarantees 
safety.

Yes you can use Situation with Explicit Context and other things correctly 
if you understand. But it's dangerous to say any modeler can do anything.

My proposal that limits the part of the OO model and the SNOMED 
hierarchies is a temporary suggestion for a way of modeling that is safe 
for everyone.

I realized when seeing comments form OWL experts on my proposal for SNL 
that they are right for themselves. They can do much more dangerous things 
because they wont get it wrong.









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<Michael.Lawley@csiro.au> 
10/17/2012 11:18 PM

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One consequence is that you must omit anything in the situation hierarchy 
of SNOMED CT, but that is almost certainly a "good thing"

Michael

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On 18/10/2012, at 2:27 PM, "Renato Iannella" 
<renato.iannella@nehta.gov.au<mailto:renato.iannella@nehta.gov.au>> wrote:


On 17 Oct 2012, at 08:11, Peter.Hendler@kp.org<mailto:Peter.Hendler@kp.org
> wrote:

 We limit the SNOMED codes to the "what" part of the model, and we use the 
OO for the "who when where" etc.

Hi Peter, does this then limit your ability to detect (computationally) 
dependencies that go thru the OO model?

For example, Person has Allergy substance X and is prescribed Medicine Y 
(with active ingredient substance X)

Cheers
Dr Renato Iannella
Lead Architect, Information & Policy Services
nehta - National E-Health Transition Authority
Phone: +61 7 3023 8578  Mobile: +61 4 1313 2206