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Re: ANN: Semantic University - for learning the Semantic Web (now easier to use)

From: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 11:56:22 +0100
To: Lee Feigenbaum <lee@thefigtrees.net>
Cc: public-semweb-lifesci hcls <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>
Message-ID: <87txtwypex.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk>

Referencing and linking are not the same thing; say I want to produce a
table of contents of resources, including yours and others, or an index.
What would you think if you opened a book and at the front it said
"pg 8, pg 32, pg 53", where you expected a table of contents. 

If you want to know more, I'd suggest that you read....


Rule 3 is: 
 "When someone looks up a URI, provide useful information, using the
 standards such as RDF* and SPARQL."

Anyway, I think I have said enough here; it's your website!


Lee Feigenbaum <lee@thefigtrees.net> writes:
> I don't really find the use cases you suggest particularly compelling. Perhaps
> you could explain them in a bit more detail?
> Searching -- we do some degree of traditional SEO, and the lessons generally
> show up very well on major search engines
> Sorting -- I'm not sure what would be sorted? The lessons are presented in a
> particular order designed to help the understanding of readers who go through
> the material as presented
> Mashing up -- Can you give me an example?
> Referencing -- Generally speaking, we think that the URLs of the individual
> lessons are perfectly adequate for referencing
> thanks,
> Lee
> On 10/11/2012 5:24 AM, Phillip Lord wrote:
>> I am a little surprised that you can't see use cases for adding
>> computationally extractable metadata to your articles. Searching,
>> sorting, mashing up, referencing and so on.
>> RSS is a different point; ignoring it's "what's new" role, it happens to
>> be a reasonable source for computational metadata where there is nothing
>> else.
>> Phil
>> Lee Feigenbaum <lee@thefigtrees.net> writes:
>>> Thanks for the feedback. We didn't pursue an RSS feed for the site because
>>> it's intended to be relatively timeless educational content, rather than dated
>>> material. That said, I can look into adding one.
>>> Can you help me understand the use cases for using some of the other
>>> approaches you mention and what would be involved? I didn't really have any
>>> compelling use cases in mind off the top of my head to mark up these lessons.
>>> thanks,
>>> Lee
>>> On 10/10/2012 7:20 AM, Phillip Lord wrote:
>>>> This is an interesting set of pages.
>>>> One thing that confuses me about this web site is that, as far as I can
>>>> see, it apperas to use no semantic web technology; certainly trying to
>>>> mine the web pages shows no metadata describing what the document is
>>>> about. We tried searching for OGP, various forms of metatags, prism,
>>>> COINs and so on, using our Greycite (http://greycite.knowledgeblog.org)
>>>> tool, and found nothing. We've tried visual inspection as well -- not
>>>> easy as all the HTML is on one line -- and again can see nothing. Tried
>>>> content negotiation for RDF, but this returns HTML. Even the normally
>>>> reliable RSS feed fails because there isn't one.
>>>> Phil
>>>> Lee Feigenbaum <lee@thefigtrees.net> writes:
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> Many of you may already have come across Semantic University
>>>>> <http://www.cambridgesemantics.com/semantic-university>, but I'd like to
>>>>> announce it to this community.
>>>>> Semantic University is a free, online resource for learning Semantic Web
>>>>> technologies. We've gotten some great feedback over the past few months, and
>>>>> we feel that it's one of the most accessible ways for both technical and
>>>>> non-technical people to start learning about semantics and the Semantic Web.
>>>>> For those of you who have seen Semantic University before, we've re-organized
>>>>> the content into general Semantic Web Landscape content and into specific
>>>>> technical tracks oriented around RDF, OWL/RDFS, SPARQL, and Semantic Web
>>>>> Design Patterns. I hope you'll check it out as we think it's now much easier
>>>>> to use to learn about the Semantic Web.
>>>>> Semantic University currently includes over 30 lessons, and we're continually
>>>>> preparing new content. We're also looking for additional writers to contribute
>>>>> new lessons, so please contact me if you'd be interested. I'd especially like
>>>>> to start including content specific to particular verticals, and HCLS would be
>>>>> a great starting place. Please let me know if you'd be interested in
>>>>> contributing!
>>>>> Current lessons include:
>>>>>    * An Introduction to the Semantic Web
>>>>>      <https://www.cambridgesemantics.com/semantic-university/introduction-to-the-semantic-web>
>>>>>    * Semantic Web Misconceptions
>>>>>      <https://www.cambridgesemantics.com/semantic-university/semantic-web-misconceptions>
>>>>>    * Semantic Web vs. Semantic Technologies
>>>>>      <https://www.cambridgesemantics.com/semantic-university/semantic-web-vs-semantic-technologies>
>>>>>    * RDF 101 <https://www.cambridgesemantics.com/semantic-university/rdf-101>
>>>>>    * SPARQL Nuts and Bolts
>>>>>      <https://www.cambridgesemantics.com/semantic-university/sparql-nuts-and-bolts>
>>>>> ...and many more.
>>>>> Please enjoy & we welcome all feedback & suggestions.
>>>>> best,
>>>>> Lee

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