- From: Roderic Page <r.page@bio.gla.ac.uk>
- Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:35:29 +0100
- To: public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
- Cc: Matt <matt.halstead@auckland.ac.nz>
Dear Matt, > Do you have any publications that outline the motivation here (except > the LSIDs don't work for the semantic web argument you have outlined > in your online material)? No publication as yet on bioGUID, but I'm working on some rough notes. In essence the motivation is to get biodiversity informatics using RDF, and I don't think LSIDs are the best way to get us there. For something related you could look at my article "Taxonomic names, metadata, and the Semantic Web" (http://jbi.nhm.ku.edu/index.php/jbi/article/view/25). > What are the rules for generating a URI for a particular database > record? For example: > http://bioguid.info/rdf/GO:0003674 does not work, and neither does > http://bioguid.info/rdf/go:0003674 ... is the gene ontology not > referenced yet? or do I have the rule wrong? bioGUID needs to know how to resolve the identifier, which in turn means that there is some way to get metadata about the identifier (although I will resort to having local copies of databases if I have too). To resolve a GO identifier there needs to be a service somewhere that takes a GO identifier and returns metadata either in RDF, or in a format that can be converted to RDF. Is there any such service? If not, I would have to host a copy of GO here, and write something to output a GO term in RDF. > Are you trying to achieve a mechanism for uniquely identifying links > to important bioinformatic records by URI? I guess I'm trying to show the value of having such URIs, because my sense is that -- within the biodiversity informatics community at least -- people haven't bought the argument yet. It's hard to make the case without real demos. Plus my own work depends on having such an infrastructure in place. > Would you imagine this might become a primary conduit for people to > locate a database record when they have database record IDs, rdf > tools, but no idea how to use these tools to access the record data > (I'm not suggesting the record data is itself RDF). Ideally no, because I would hope data providers would have their own URIs that are stable and return RDF. For example, the database record that a user has should itself be a URI. However, as an interim step, yes, bioGUID can be a way to locate a record in the absence of knowing how to do that, and in some cases, it may be the only currently existing way to do that, unless you want to write your own code. For example, accessing a museum specimen record requires writing a XML document and embedding that in a URL (gack). > > Are you trying to achieve a cross referencing system for database > records? And if so, on what basis is a cross-reference made? The cross reference uses bioGUIDs. For example, if a PubMed record contains a DOI, the RDF will have a triple linking the PubMed and the DOI using rdfs:sameAs. If a PubMed record lists sequence ids, they are converted to bioGUIDs. I use bioGUIDs so that the link can be navigated by a Semantic Web browser. > (for > example the record referenced itself back references the record making > this reference) Um, huh? Do you mean, if a PubMed record references a sequence, does the sequence reference the PubMed record? The answer is it depends. In the case of a PubMed record and a sequence, in most cases yes, hence for http://bioguid.info/pmid:17079492 there is a triple <dcterms:references rdf:resource="http://bioguid.info/gi:117652796" /> and for http://bioguid.info/gi:117652796 there is a triple <dcterms:isReferencedBy rdf:resource="http://bioguid.info/pmid:17079492"/> These are easy because the PubMed and the GenBank records refer to each other. In other cases both links don't exist -- for example, a specimen has no idea whether a sequence links to it. I could add the reverse link in these cases, but I'd sort of assumed that people could use a SPARQL query to get these. > > How would people apply to have their databases added? > Basically just ask me. So far I'm adding data sources that are directly relevant to my own work, but since that includes sequences, that pretty much opens up most things in bioinformatics. I'm also looking at adding list of triples (such as citation links) to the underlying triple store, so the bioGUID records become richer than just a remote database lookup. > The immediate use-case that springs to mind is being able to drop the > crop of libraries one needs to interpret records in one database to > find accession numbers for another database and so on until you find > sort of what you are looking for in the actual database you want. Not totally sure I understand this. My own immediate use case is to have a script that will fetch a record with a bioGUID, and have that script fetch every linked record referred to by that record (i.e., RDF spidering). For example, if I start with a PubMed identifier, the script would pull out all the sequences in that paper, any specimens linked to those sequences, the taxonomy of the organisms, and the papers cited by the PubMed paper. I would then have a local triple store for this information, and be able to do stuff like plot a geographical map of the sequences based on the georeferenced specimen records. Regards Rod ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------- Professor Roderic D. M. 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