HCLS March 1 TC Minutes

The public IRC log can be found at: http://www.w3.org/2007/03/01-hcls-minutes.html

Thanks to Tonya for scribing...

Thurs, March 1 Teleconference Agenda and Minutes: 
 
Time: 11:00 am EDT March 1, 2007 in America/New York
Chairs: Eric Neumann, Tonya Hongsermeier
 
Agenda:
a) Convene, take roll, review record
 
b) Propose next HCLS call March 8, 2007, nominate a scribe
 
c) Update on possible NCBI URI space
 
d) Previous Actions items:
     i. Role definition of SWD editor for controlled vocabularies – ACTION ITEM: Revisit Next Week
     ii. Vipul to invite Stan Huff to present his work to this group – ACTION ITEM: Revisit Next Week
     iii. Task forces' draft pages – 

Draft Notes, Eric, Vipul submitted link, Susie: what are these notes?  We are focused on the demo at the moment, sole goal right now, URI note, who owns?  Eric:  Please create a draft for BIO RDF  Susan: we have pages that have been written, but these are not action item deliverable,  BIO RDF links have been posted… URI note http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Documents?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=getting-information.txt   Eric had difficulty retrieving notes deliverables from F2F meeting, we still should be on track to produce the documents
     iv. Summary of discussion between EricN and Alan on possibility of including Tox data in the demo



Eric and Alan discussed question of any proposed therapeutic approaches, potential clinical studies that show tox effects, Alan: limiting factor is manpower, need someone to ID the use cases, once that is layed out, Matthias and Alan can proceed, need a narrative, can you do that?  Eric = we can easily mangle data together, Alan: demo is focused on real uses, snippets, but points will be technical points, doesn’t have to be a connected narrative, but illustrate queries, that even in a fragmented way, illustrate how the data can be accessed using RDF,  ACTION ITEM: Eric:  I can deliver probably deliver something in the time frame,  Alan I need to know which are the minimal things I need to connect to to create your story, just some specific compounds,   
v.   AlanR "grocery list" of data and tools 
I sent some out in the form of ideas of actual things to do in the demo – posted to IRC – we’ll talk more on Monday during the face to face, Eric P. will not be able to attend design session, but bill be at the hacking session,  trying to convert GENSET, for data integration, trying to do demo where a mapping is in place, then add a new mapping, requery and see new results, will do this over cell types, for demoing specificity, will do search against Google, compare with SPARQL query, for comparing standard relational model from SQL to SPARQL, will want to show that when you have a relational database, flash a relations diagram and struggle forward vs SPARQL whereby you can pull the classes and properties and improve discoverability efficiency,  for Browsing, am thinking about different UI approaches, can use a timeline illustration, graph illustration, show how different visualization approaches work,  Alan dropped these into IRC log,  Eric: will you be able to id URIs for different tissues -  Alan spoke too fast..  Vipul: alan, transitive closure?  Alan – there is a nice one, taking biopax and adding 4 superproperty relations and a transitive role, then suddenly can do new queries, Vipul:  also transitive closure over GO relations  Alan:  one of the issues with doing this inside the triple store is the question of the triple store supporting it
 
     vi. BIRN data discussion



     vii. F2F planning: demo hack session (Susie and Vipul)
Susie:  Swann folks will host the meeting, will have phones in the room, second F2F on the 13th of March to focus on linking the data sets together, 
 
 
e) Additional WWW2007 planning
 
Susie – many opportunities to present the Demo, many conferences, Who will present at WWW20007, IVAN: I need names of presenters, title into agenda by end of day tomorrow, typically no more than 2 presenters,   Eric : is the HCLS track only?  Ivan; No the W3C track, within 90 minutes devoted to Semantic web, a 30 minutes lot,  Eric; Alan should be one?    Alan : can one of the SWAN folks present on the science context, 4 minutes tops – IVAN – Alan and Susie can handle... Alan:  would be nice if Susie did this with me, Ivan:  I’m happy, send me a title  ACTION Alan and Susie will propose session to Ivan by tomorrow
 
Eric:  additional planning, Kei – too much echo to scribe – plan is to accept 8-10 papers for an entire day event, as we go along, if we refine further, will let group know what the structure is,  Eric;  will post in future TCs, Kei:  aiming for 2 keynote speakers, one is Carole Goble, looking for another one, ideally someone from industry,  and 5 for a panel discussion,  Susie mentioned submission for ISMB,  I will go ahead and submit the HCLS paper we already written to special ISMB section on “highlighted papers”,  
 
Next call is next week… review outcome of the Monday meeting
 
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