- From: Donald Doherty <donald.doherty@brainstage.com>
- Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:22:01 -0500
- To: "'William Bug'" <William.Bug@DrexelMed.edu>
- Cc: "'public-semweb-lifesci hcls'" <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>
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Hi Bill, I can probably help with the ADDL article. Susan Catalano (the first author) is a best friend (we went through graduate school together and she was best "man" at my wedding). Don -----Original Message----- From: public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org [mailto:public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of William Bug Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:01 AM To: Gwen Wong Cc: 'Alan Ruttenberg'; 'Eric Neumann'; 'June Kinoshita'; 'Tim Clark'; 'public-semweb-lifesci hcls' Subject: Re: AD Use Case - about ADDLs [science] (corrected an error) Many thanks, Gwen. This is all very helpful. There's a very recent review from the AD research group at Merck apparently covering all the issues re: ADDL and their ability to address what has clearly been one of THE MOST difficult confounding FACTs for AD researchers to confront. The effect this fundamental piece of contradictory evidence has daily on the practice of AD researchers from bench to bedside cannot be over-stated. They sum it up in the abstract of this review: "...recent evidence, however, suggests that the presence or absence of plaque is insufficient to fully account for the deleterious role of elevated Aâ in AD." That is why this Use Case is so particularly interesting. It encapsulates a desire to rapidly exploit at the BEDSIDE the most recent and promising BENCH-based evidence (including clinical research) related to the following alternative hypothesis: "...soluble oligomers of Aâ (i.e., ADDLs) accumulate and cause functional deficits prior to overt neuronal cell death or plaque deposition." It would be great to have the body of this article as a review guide to the current state of the art where ADDLs are concerned, as many of our questions regarding how to represent the relevant biology have been distilled in this review: "The following review focuses on research describing the preparation and functional activity of ADDLs in vitro and in vivo. These studies provide the basis for an alternate, ADDL-based, view of the Aâ cascade hypothesis and accounts for the disconnect between plaque burden and cognitive deficits. Possible therapeutic approaches aimed at lowering ADDLs in AD patients are also considered." Unfortunately for all of us, this article is in a journal with very low impact, so few libraries subscribe (ScienceCommons - please come to our rescue!). The Role of Amyloid-Beta Derived Diffusible Ligands (ADDLs) in Alzheimer's Disease Catalano, Susan M.1; Dodson, Elizabeth C.1; Henze, Darrell A.1; Joyce, Joseph G.1; Krafft, Grant A.1; Kinney, Gene G.1 Current Topics in Medicinal Chemistry, Volume 6, Number 6, March 2006, pp. 597-608(12) The bottom line is we need to do our best to express the KNOWN relationship(s) between: 1) the putative peptide-derived molecules indicated by the entity "ADDL" which are most relevant to the AD disease process - along with details of their biophysical state which come into play (polymerization, mol. wt., etc.) 2) the existing antibodies and these same putative peptide-derived molecules with which they interact. The core question encapsulated within the AD Use Case is: What is the most promising antibody-derived therapeutic agent to the soluble amyloid Abeta derived diffusable ligand(s) worth trying in a clinical trial that is much likely to cause the prohibitively negative encephalitic side effects? The existing evidentiary relations we need to represent in RDF to address this question were listed in my transcription of June & Gwen's Use Case back on December 15th: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/AlzheimersUseCase Whatever hypothetical assertions we'd ultimately seek to pose against the converted RDF data sources we'd want to do our best to address these specific issues. Please take a look again at this Wiki page for a more complete listing of the details. There is one final issue I'd mention regarding our attempt to clarify how best to handle the term "ADDL". It is also an acronym for a totally unrelated peptide-derived entity present both in the NCBI instance repositories, as well as the literature: 21: Katagiri T, Ozaki K, Fujiwara T, Shimizu F, Kawai A, Okuno S, Suzuki M, Nakamura Y, Takahashi E, Hirai Y. Related Articles, Links Abstract Cloning, expression and chromosome mapping of adducin-like 70 (ADDL), a human cDNA highly homologous to human erythrocyte adducin. Cytogenet Cell Genet. 1996;74(1-2):90-5. PMID: 8893809 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Cheers, Bill On Jan 22, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Gwen Wong wrote: Hi all, Here are a few comments to the questions posed in the previous email: 1. Whether APP splice form matters. How mutation matters. Whether ADDL refers specifically to Abeta1-42 complexes. Much of the work on ADDLs come from the lab of Bill Klein and others: <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=A bstractPlus&list_uids=17116235&query_hl=3&itool=pubmed_docsum> Lambert MP, Velasco PT, Chang L, Viola KL, Fernandez S, Lacor PN, Khuon D, Gong Y, Bigio EH, Shaw P, De Felice FG, Krafft GA, Klein WL. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=pubmed_DocSum&db=pubmed &cmd=Display&dopt=pubmed_pubmed&from_uid=17116235> Related Articles, <javascript:PopUpMenu2_Set(Menu17116235);> Links <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=A bstractPlus&list_uids=17116235&itool=iconabstr&query_hl=3&itool=pubmed_docsu m> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=A bstractPlus&list_uids=17116235&itool=iconabstr&query_hl=3&itool=pubmed_docsu m> <image001.gif> Monoclonal antibodies that target pathological assemblies of Abeta. J Neurochem. 2007 Jan;100(1):23-35. Epub 2006 Nov 20. PMID: 17116235 [PubMed - in process] <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=A bstractPlus&list_uids=16712494&query_hl=5&itool=pubmed_docsum> Catalano SM, Dodson EC, Henze DA, Joyce JG, Krafft GA, Kinney GG. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=pubmed_DocSum&db=pubmed &cmd=Display&dopt=pubmed_pubmed&from_uid=16712494> Related Articles, <javascript:PopUpMenu2_Set(Menu16712494);> Links <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=A bstractPlus&list_uids=16712494&itool=iconabstr&query_hl=5&itool=pubmed_docsu m> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=A bstractPlus&list_uids=16712494&itool=iconabstr&query_hl=5&itool=pubmed_docsu m> <image001.gif> The role of amyloid-beta derived diffusible ligands (ADDLs) in Alzheimer's disease. Curr Top Med Chem. 2006;6(6):597-608. Review. PMID: 16712494 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=A bstractPlus&list_uids=12176077&query_hl=3&itool=pubmed_docsum> Klein WL. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=pubmed_DocSum&db=pubmed &cmd=Display&dopt=pubmed_pubmed&from_uid=12176077> Related Articles, <javascript:PopUpMenu2_Set(Menu12176077);> Links <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=A bstractPlus&list_uids=12176077&itool=iconabstr&query_hl=3&itool=pubmed_docsu m> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=A bstractPlus&list_uids=12176077&itool=iconabstr&query_hl=3&itool=pubmed_docsu m> <image001.gif> Abeta toxicity in Alzheimer's disease: globular oligomers (ADDLs) as new vaccine and drug targets. Neurochem Int. 2002 Nov;41(5):345-52. Review. PMID: 12176077 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Bill's note suggests that shorter fragments of Abeta might be consituents of ADDLs. I don't know if these are just experimental constructs or whether they occur in vivo. Whether ADDLs are always composed of multiples of a single form of abeta, or whether different species can be mixed. These papers suggest that ADDLs are derived from beta secretase cleavage at the N-terminal end, but that perhaps may be a heterogeneous mix of lengths. Is this what you mean by "splice form"? What the comment about Abeta1-40 in the immunogen(epitope) field of the ADDL antibody in Alzforum means. The Lambert paper identifies antibodies that discriminate between recognition of Abeta 1-28 and ADDL but to do recognize Abeta 1-40. This may be either a true sequence identity of ADDL peptides, or that ADDLs derived from Abeta 1-40 are not recognized due to tertiary structure (ie steric hindrance). Regarding Abeta 1-42, the Lesne paper (Abeta*56): <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=A bstractPlus&list_uids=16541076&query_hl=7&itool=pubmed_docsum> Lesne S, Koh MT, Kotilinek L, Kayed R, Glabe CG, Yang A, Gallagher M, Ashe KH. <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=pubmed_DocSum&db=pubmed &cmd=Display&dopt=pubmed_pubmed&from_uid=16541076> Related Articles, <javascript:PopUpMenu2_Set(Menu16541076);> Links <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=A bstractPlus&list_uids=16541076&itool=iconabstr&query_hl=7&itool=pubmed_docsu m> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=A bstractPlus&list_uids=16541076&itool=iconabstr&query_hl=7&itool=pubmed_docsu m> <image001.gif> A specific amyloid-beta protein assembly in the brain impairs memory. Nature. 2006 Mar 16;440(7082):352-7. PMID: 16541076 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] This article clearly states that: At 6 months age, <http://www.alzforum.org/res/com/tra/app/2576.asp> Tg2576 mice brain extracts have Aâ42 assemblies ranging from monomer to nonameric (40 kDa) and dodecameric (56 kDa) forms, representing multiples of trimeric Aâ42 oligomers. The authors of this article link these multimers of Abeta 1-42 as a form of Abeta that induces memory deficits. The open question is whether what Bill Klein refers to as "ADDL" is the same as "Abeta*56". These studies to my knowledge have not been done (I may be wrong about this), for example: ADDL-specific antibodies have not been used to detect Abeta*56, etc. I hope these comments help. Gwen -----Original Message----- From: public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org [mailto:public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Alan Ruttenberg Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:20 PM To: Eric Neumann; William Bug; June Kinoshita; Tim Clark; public-semweb-lifesci hcls; Gwen Wong Subject: Re: AD Use Case - about ADDLs [science] (corrected an error) oops. Move "What I don't know:" to below "ADDL complex has_part..." Corrected message below -Alan On Jan 21, 2007, at 9:26 PM, Eric Neumann wrote: > Bill, > > I'm trying to understand the central issue here: is it that ADDL is > not a full gene product so one cannot use the Entrez URI? > I'm trying to understand this stuff too. Here's my current understanding: APP gene (for which there is an entrez gene entry)-> precursor protein (~700AA). Two proteases can cleave it into different fragments from 39-42 amino acids. These are collectively called Amyloid beta proteins. I.e. Amyloid beta is a protein family, though in different contexts it might refer to a specific member of that family. ADDLs are short oligomers of amyloid beta proteins. I've seen it said that they are made of Abeta(1-42) (i.e. the 42 AA cleavage product) > If so, why not just define the necessary set of peptides as new > URI's (in HCLS's namespace for now), with predicate ':derived_from > A-beta*56' ? > Abeta*56 is also a protein complex of Amyloid beta proteins. 56 here refers to the molecular weight in kDa. It wasn't specifically stated but it looks to me that Abeta*56 fits the definition of an ADDL. A single Abeta1-42 is about 4.5kDa, The variables are therefore a) which Abeta b) what size complex. So the relation is more like: precursor protein_gene_product_of APP Abeta derived_from precursor (in the BFO sense) ADDL complex has_part only Abeta (also some sort of cardinality specification) What I don't know: Whether APP splice form matters. How mutation matters. Whether ADDL refers specifically to Abeta1-42 complexes. What the comment about Abeta1-40 in the immunogen(epitope) field of the ADDL antibody in Alzforum means. Bill's note suggests that shorter fragments of Abeta might be consituents of ADDLs. I don't know if these are just experimental constructs or whether they occur in vivo. Whether ADDLs are always composed of multiples of a single form of abeta, or whether different species can be mixed. -Alan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amyloid_precursor_protein http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? db=PubMed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=Citation&list_uids=16541076 http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/95/11/6448 http://www.jbc.org/cgi/content/abstract/271/34/20631 Bill Bug Senior Research Analyst/Ontological Engineer Laboratory for Bioimaging & Anatomical Informatics www.neuroterrain.org Department of Neurobiology & Anatomy Drexel University College of Medicine 2900 Queen Lane Philadelphia, PA 19129 215 991 8430 (ph) 610 457 0443 (mobile) 215 843 9367 (fax) Please Note: I now have a new email - William.Bug@DrexelMed.edu
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