- From: Gao, Yong <YGAO@PARTNERS.ORG>
- Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:28:27 -0500
- To: "David Decraene" <David@landcglobal.com>, "Robert Stevens" <robert.stevens@manchester.ac.uk>, "Phillip Lord" <phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk>, "Alan Ruttenberg" <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>
- Cc: "public-semweb-lifesci hcls" <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>
Perhaps the terms "formal" and "ontology" should be defined or linked on the page? Both terms themselves are quite ambiguous. The formal ontology pages links to ontology in philosophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontology), why not the computer science one ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontology_%28computer_science%29)? The term "formal" is given at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal. The wikipedia page might need more than one definitions of "formal ontology" to reflect the nature of these concepts. Yong -----Original Message----- From: public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org on behalf of David Decraene Sent: Wed 1/24/2007 10:03 AM To: Robert Stevens; Phillip Lord; Alan Ruttenberg Cc: public-semweb-lifesci hcls Subject: RE: [biont] Nice wikipedia page on ontology I'd like to comment on these statements: Perhaps it can be phrased better, but 'algorhythms' refers to the fact that a formal upper level ontology has built-in DISJOINT (and other) axioms which reflect back onto their children (ergo the consistency check phrase). Axioms is perhaps a better choice. Also, the formal in formal ontology has nothing to do with the language of representation (perhaps that part can be phrased better as well to avoid confusion) but to the formalism (formality of the ontology as you refer to it) that is embedded in the framework. I do not disagree that this page can be improved further (which is the purpose and strongpoint of wikipedia), but explaining in laymans terms what a formal ontology is about is a challenge. -----Original Message----- From: public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org [mailto:public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Robert Stevens Sent: woensdag 24 januari 2007 15:45 To: Phillip Lord; Alan Ruttenberg Cc: public-semweb-lifesci hcls Subject: Re: [biont] Nice wikipedia page on ontology 'd be inclined to agree with Phil. I don't where the bit about "algorithms" has come from. The other mistake, I think, is not to make the distinction between formality of language for representaiton and the formality of the ontology itself. The latter is, I think, a matter of the distinctions made. One can make an ontology in a formal language like owl, but still be informal in the ontological distinctions made. Formal ontological distinctions can be encapsulated in an upper level, but upper level otnoogies are not necessarily formal.... the phrase also explicitely refers to upper level ontologies that are formal in nature... Anyway, it is bad at almost any level Robert. ,At 13:55 24/01/2007, Phillip Lord wrote: >>>>> "Alan" == Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com> writes: Alan> Start at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_Ontology Alan> -Alan Well, it starts of with this.... "A Formal ontology is an ontology modeled by algorithms. Formal ontologies are founded upon a specific Formal Upper Level Ontology, which provides consistency checks for the entire ontology and, if applied properly, allows the modeler to avoid possibly erroneous ontological assumptions encountered in modeling large-scale ontologies. " Almost none of which I would agree with. THE INFORMATION TRANSMITTED IN THIS ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSON OR ENTITY TO WHOM IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR PRIVILEGED MATERIAL. ANY REVIEW, RETRANSMISSION, DISSEMINATION OR OTHER USE OF OR TAKING OF ANY ACTION IN RELIANCE UPON, THIS INFORMATION BY PERSONS OR ENTITIES OTHER THAN THE INTENDED RECIPIENT IS PROHIBITED. IF YOU RECEIVED THIS INFORMATION IN ERROR, PLEASE CONTACT THE SENDER AND THE PRIVACY OFFICER, AND PROPERLY DISPOSE OF THIS INFORMATION.
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