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Re: [biont] Nice wikipedia page on ontology

From: Carole Goble <carole.goble@manchester.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:23:41 +0000
Message-ID: <45B779FD.3050303@manchester.ac.uk>
To: William Bug <William.Bug@DrexelMed.edu>
CC: Davide Zaccagnini <davide@landcglobal.com>, Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>, public-semweb-lifesci hcls <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>, David Decraene <David@landcglobal.com>, Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk>

Bill

Hear hear!! Well said.

Carole

> I was thinking initially Phil's concerns may have been more in terms 
> of the wording used on the page, but Robert makes it more clear the 
> issues are much more fundamental than that.  All of Robert's points 
> sound very much to the root of why there would be concerns this is not 
> a comprehensive view of what "formal" can mean in both the 
> construction and use of ontologies.
>
> I did like the fact an attempt was made to include the cornucopia of 
> Upper Level ontologies in active use, since clarity on this issue has 
> often not been very good - and the arguments that rage over which best 
> fits a particular application can be difficult to follow for some.
>
> I would certainly want to commend David Z's colleague for having the 
> bravery (others might call it temerity) to step out and make a first 
> stab at presenting - in a very public forum - a topic that can often 
> foment arguments during academic debates.  I've been party to many 
> public debates over specific scientific issues over the years, but 
> there is something about the topic of proper ontology construction and 
> implementation in biomedical informatics - debates that must address 
> what an ontology IS and what an ontology IS NOT - that brings out the 
> most vehement disagreements.  The disagreements will remain, so long 
> as there are effective applications to demonstrate the value of the 
> differing points-of-view.
>
> Perhaps we could work to assist David D. in his noble effort to 
> disseminate information on this topic of great importance to many of 
> us in this very public forum, if others agree its useful to have such 
> a resource in the Wikipedia.
>
> Cheers,
> Bill
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2007, at 9:50 AM, Davide Zaccagnini wrote:
>
>> David Decreane from L&C started that page and wrote good part of the 
>> content. I'm passing him your kind comments.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Davide
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org 
>> <mailto:public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org> on behalf of William Bug
>> Sent: Tue 1/23/2007 4:06 PM
>> To: Alan Ruttenberg
>> Cc: public-semweb-lifesci hcls
>> Subject: Re: [biont] Nice wikipedia page on ontology
>>
>> Great reference, Alan!
>>
>> I'd noticed a while back, a collection of folks who understand the 
>> formal details, the entirety of the landscape, and collectively have 
>> done a great job documenting this info have worked on that page.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> On Jan 23, 2007, at 10:00 AM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Start at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_Ontology
>>
>> -Alan
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Bug
>> Senior Research Analyst/Ontological Engineer
>>
>> Laboratory for Bioimaging  & Anatomical Informatics
>> www.neuroterrain.org
>> Department of Neurobiology & Anatomy
>> Drexel University College of Medicine
>> 2900 Queen Lane
>> Philadelphia, PA    19129
>> 215 991 8430 (ph)
>> 610 457 0443 (mobile)
>> 215 843 9367 (fax)
>>
>>
>> Please Note: I now have a new email - William.Bug@DrexelMed.edu 
>> <mailto:William.Bug@DrexelMed.edu>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Bill Bug
> Senior Research Analyst/Ontological Engineer
>
> Laboratory for Bioimaging  & Anatomical Informatics
> www.neuroterrain.org
> Department of Neurobiology & Anatomy
> Drexel University College of Medicine
> 2900 Queen Lane
> Philadelphia, PA    19129
> 215 991 8430 (ph)
> 610 457 0443 (mobile)
> 215 843 9367 (fax)
>
>
> Please Note: I now have a new email - William.Bug@DrexelMed.edu 
> <mailto:William.Bug@DrexelMed.edu>
>
>
>
>
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