- From: Carole Goble <carole.goble@manchester.ac.uk>
- Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:23:41 +0000
- To: William Bug <William.Bug@DrexelMed.edu>
- CC: Davide Zaccagnini <davide@landcglobal.com>, Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>, public-semweb-lifesci hcls <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>, David Decraene <David@landcglobal.com>, Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk>
Bill Hear hear!! Well said. Carole > I was thinking initially Phil's concerns may have been more in terms > of the wording used on the page, but Robert makes it more clear the > issues are much more fundamental than that. All of Robert's points > sound very much to the root of why there would be concerns this is not > a comprehensive view of what "formal" can mean in both the > construction and use of ontologies. > > I did like the fact an attempt was made to include the cornucopia of > Upper Level ontologies in active use, since clarity on this issue has > often not been very good - and the arguments that rage over which best > fits a particular application can be difficult to follow for some. > > I would certainly want to commend David Z's colleague for having the > bravery (others might call it temerity) to step out and make a first > stab at presenting - in a very public forum - a topic that can often > foment arguments during academic debates. I've been party to many > public debates over specific scientific issues over the years, but > there is something about the topic of proper ontology construction and > implementation in biomedical informatics - debates that must address > what an ontology IS and what an ontology IS NOT - that brings out the > most vehement disagreements. The disagreements will remain, so long > as there are effective applications to demonstrate the value of the > differing points-of-view. > > Perhaps we could work to assist David D. in his noble effort to > disseminate information on this topic of great importance to many of > us in this very public forum, if others agree its useful to have such > a resource in the Wikipedia. > > Cheers, > Bill > > > On Jan 24, 2007, at 9:50 AM, Davide Zaccagnini wrote: > >> David Decreane from L&C started that page and wrote good part of the >> content. I'm passing him your kind comments. >> >> Thanks >> >> Davide >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org >> <mailto:public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org> on behalf of William Bug >> Sent: Tue 1/23/2007 4:06 PM >> To: Alan Ruttenberg >> Cc: public-semweb-lifesci hcls >> Subject: Re: [biont] Nice wikipedia page on ontology >> >> Great reference, Alan! >> >> I'd noticed a while back, a collection of folks who understand the >> formal details, the entirety of the landscape, and collectively have >> done a great job documenting this info have worked on that page. >> >> Cheers, >> Bill >> >> >> On Jan 23, 2007, at 10:00 AM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: >> >> >> >> Start at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_Ontology >> >> -Alan >> >> >> >> Bill Bug >> Senior Research Analyst/Ontological Engineer >> >> Laboratory for Bioimaging & Anatomical Informatics >> www.neuroterrain.org >> Department of Neurobiology & Anatomy >> Drexel University College of Medicine >> 2900 Queen Lane >> Philadelphia, PA 19129 >> 215 991 8430 (ph) >> 610 457 0443 (mobile) >> 215 843 9367 (fax) >> >> >> Please Note: I now have a new email - William.Bug@DrexelMed.edu >> <mailto:William.Bug@DrexelMed.edu> >> >> >> >> >> > > Bill Bug > Senior Research Analyst/Ontological Engineer > > Laboratory for Bioimaging & Anatomical Informatics > www.neuroterrain.org > Department of Neurobiology & Anatomy > Drexel University College of Medicine > 2900 Queen Lane > Philadelphia, PA 19129 > 215 991 8430 (ph) > 610 457 0443 (mobile) > 215 843 9367 (fax) > > > Please Note: I now have a new email - William.Bug@DrexelMed.edu > <mailto:William.Bug@DrexelMed.edu> > > > >
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