Re : A question on the vocabulary for 'persons'

Hi, 
may be this was notified before : there is an ontology derived from FOAF wich could be used for a research community: 
 
"Semantic Campus: A FOAF extension"
 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/Europe/events/foaf-galway/papers/pp/semantic_campus/

The namespace is "http://semanticcampus.org/ns/sc#" --
Pierre Lindenbaum PhD
http://plindenbaum.blogspot.com
 
----- Message d'origine ---- 
De : AJ Chen  
À : Ivan Herman  
Cc : public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org 
Envoyé le : Jeudi, 14 Septembre 2006, 9h44mn 46s 
Objet : Re: A question on the vocabulary for 'persons' 
 
For experiment publishing ontology, I need a Person class to represent anybody involved in the research community. Here are the list of required properties in the current SPE specs.  I specifically point out the closest FOAF terms if available and their mismatched datat ypes.  
  
 foaf:name 
  foaf:title 
  spe:jobTitle  no FOAF term 
  spe:role   no FOAF term 
  dc:type 
  dc:subject 
  spe:expertise   no FOAF term 
  foaf:interest 
  spe:hasPublication   URI of a Publication resource, but foaf:publications is a foaf:Document, not specific enough 
  spe:currentProject   URI of a Project resource, but foaf:currentProject is a owl:thing, not specific enough 
  spe:pastProject     URI of a Project resource, but foaf:pastProject is a owl:thing, not specific enough 
  foaf:fundedBy   
  spe:inGroup    URI of a Group resource, no foaf term 
  spe:inOrganization     no foaf term 
 spe:workContact     a blank node for work contact info like address and phone #; but foaf does not have these basic contact info  
spe:altwebpage    URL of any web page that is about this person; could use foaf:homepage 
 
 AJ 
  
 
On 9/13/06, Ivan Herman  wrote:  AJ, 
 
thanks for this answer. Would it be possible to elaborate a little bit 
on what problems you have hit wen trying to use vCard (or FOAF)? It 
would certainly help us in understanding the issues... 
 
Thanks  
 
Ivan 
 
AJ Chen wrote: 
> In developing SPE ontology, I have tried to re-use FOAF and vCard, but 
> unfortunately found little can can be re-used. One main reason is that, 
> although they may have the terms, the definitions of these terms usually  
> don't match what's required by the Person class in SPE ontology. The 
> problem mostly comes from the "range" of a ObjectProperty or DataProperty. 
> 
> I wish there was a Person class defined in RDF or OWL that can be  
> re-used in any application and easily extended to include special 
> properties in specific domains. Hope the next attempt by W3C will create 
> just that. 
> 
> AJ 
> 
> On 9/12/06, *kei cheung* < kei.cheung@yale.edu 
> > wrote: 
> 
> 
>     Hi Ivan et al., 
> 
>     Based on my limited experience, a person in the life science and  
>     healthcare context can be considered as a subject or patient (which can 
>     be a subclass of person). Of course, there are other roles a person can 
>     play (e.g., doctors, researchers, and authors). For genetic studies, a  
>     group of subjects/indviduals may be a family/pedigree. In this case, 
>     relationships among these  family members may include Father_of, 
>     Mother_of, Child_of, etc. Other types of relationships can be inferred  
>     (e.g., uncle, sibling, etc). For popualtion genetics, we need to know, 
>     for example, the ethnicity of the subjects and the geographical 
>     information about the population to which the subjects belong. There can  
>     be mutliple types of ID's (e.g., patient id, cell line id, etc) 
>     associated with a person (whether the person is a subject or patient). 
>     Sometimes a dummy person (not a real person) is needed to fill in the  
>     missing data ( e.g., in linkage data analysis). I am not exactly clear 
>     how these specific HCLS use cases of persons would impact the generic 
>     modeling of person. Maybe this is something we all need to think more  
>     about. This is just my 2-cent thought. 
> 
>     Best, 
> 
>     -Kei 
> 
> 
>     Ivan Herman wrote: 
> 
>     >Dear all, 
>     > 
>     >we would need some feedback...  
>     > 
>     >There were some brainstorming on what vocabularies to use for the 
>     simple 
>     >notion of 'Person' in various settings. There is old W3C note for 
>     an RDF 
  >     >version of vCard[1], but another version was created by Norm Walsh a 
>     >while ago[2]. And, of course, there is FOAF. 
>     > 
>     >The issue came up because some people would like us to update the old  
>     >[1] note but, if we want to do that seriously, it is not necessarily 
>     >that easy (the vCard spec itself is not soooo o.k.). 
>     > 
>     >Hence the question as a feedback: what does the HCLS community use for  
>     >something like 'Person'? 
>     > 
>     >Thanks for the feedback 
>     > 
>     >Ivan 
>     > 
>     > 
>     >[1]   http://www.w3.org/TR/vcard-rdf 
>     >[2] http://norman.walsh.name/2005/12/12/vcard  
>     < http://norman.walsh.name/2005/12/12/vcard> 
>     > 
>     > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> AJ Chen, PhD 
>  http://web2express.org  
 
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Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead 
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AJ Chen, PhD 
http://web2express.org

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